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    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinCheeseNip View Post
    Could the Left Wing, Democrat Party [aka Progressives] media be any more hypocritical?

    First, Hollywood tries to upend the inauguration w/ celebs Martin Sheen, Mike Farrell doing a nation-wide
    TV ad asking delegates to switch votes.



    Then, Hollywoods Michael Moore, DeNiro makes horses rear ends of themselves- at the inauguration protest calling Trump a sociopath, and now the stupid Democrat Party obstructionism of every move Trump makes.




    The Leftwing Has Placed Itself


    In The Trash Can Of History

    Paul Craig Roberts

    "At a time when the Western world desperately needs alternative voices to the neoliberals, the neoconservatives, the presstitutes and the Trump de-regulationists, there are none. The Western leftwing has gone insane.

    The voices being raised against Trump, who does need voices raised against him, are so hypocritical as to reflect less on Trump than on those with raised voices."




    The Leftwing Has Placed Itself In The Trash Can Of History -- Paul Craig Roberts - PaulCraigRoberts.org
    Trump is a sociopath. Many very rich people are. That is just a fact.
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    I love how this motley cure of GOP factions has not even accomplished one major piece of legislation and they are pondering the health of the DNC.

    We have Trumpers, establishment GOP and the extreme right wing yet to figure out how to fund a wall, deport 11 million illegal aliens, provide an alternative to ACA, and bring back jobs to the middle class and give cut taxes to the wealthy.

    Lets all wait till August to proclaim the GOP fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingbeast View Post
    You beat me too it - I was going to say the same thing. I guess great minds think alike (or we just plainly see the obvious). There's too much money in both parties to die off that easily.
    Obama dragged the Democrats down? A huge number of Democrats didn't vote and HRC still won an unprecedented number of votes more than the "winner" who won via the part of our electoral process (the one that put him in the Oval Office,) he called "a disaster for Democracy", then called it "genius" when it worked for him.

    The problem with Democrats is the flawed logic that staying home instead of voting because you don't get the perfect results or candidate, is going to produce something better for you. Instead, that "logic" gets you loss of seats in Congress and state houses and something MUCH harder to turn around than a candidate that is not all of what you want, but is MUCH closer to what you want than the opposition candidate. If Americans are looking for perfection in candidates, they are never going to find it and be perpetually upset. Going more radical means the opposition just does the same, in knee jerk reaction.

    It is interest to have watched HRC be called anything from being no better than conservative in bed with Wall Street to a radical liberal and BOTH being used as reasons to not vote for her. The question is, what do people want, where and what are the universal things all can agree on that transcend the political rhetoric that is intended to divide (because bashing opposition has taken the place of setting out something better so you don't have to bash the opposition to win, you just have to offer something better.

    In the last election, the "logic" of the right was also flawed. People are not BORN as politicians in this nation, it is a Republic with Democratic mechanics. There is no heredity ascendancy to leadership. EVERY politician in the history of this nation was NOT a politician before they were elected to become one and once they decided to run for an office, they became a politician.

    How many elections of the past have we heard the same contention that neo republicans don't like "insiders" and "politicians" or "career politicians" and each time they elect so called "outsiders" and those outsiders become the insiders and the neo republicans make the same claim in a subsequent election and pick more "outsiders" that they then reject as insiders. Not only that, they still keep picking those they call "insiders", like Mitch McConnell, John McCain and others, even as they rail against doing so. The question is, if you failed to pick the right "outsiders" last time, what makes you think you're going to pick a better set this time and not only that, once people run for office, they become politicians. if you don't like politicians, how do you expect someone should be chosen to represent you?

    People are no longer using their brains, it seems. The trend of staying at home and not voting and the odd construct that "politicians" are the root of the problem are inane and lack intelligence and thought, but they seem to make for good memes and practices and the perpetuation of dissatisfaction and gridlock, and because they not only do not address where the real problems lie, they add to the real problems and become part of them, instead of a solution to them. Inconsistency is also part of the problem. People say they don't like career politicians, yet in the last election almost 97% of incumbents were re-elected. We seem to like to say a lot of things and have opinions in one direction, then do the opposite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    I went to war for this country and I was wounded. I care about the United States. Apart from my time in the military, I've gone to school, worked and lived in the Great State of Wisconsin.

    But the election of Donald Trump as president sickens me. He is a disgusting example of an American leader. He serves himself, not this country, not the free world. He is a egotistical narcissist who constantly lies. I find it incredible that he was elected president, but I doubt that he'll last in office more than one year.

    God help the United States.

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    Amen, Brother, Amen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Whut? Are you suggesting most Democrats are members of the American Communist party as well?

    I don't think that organization has even 300 members now.
    How many fascists in the alt-right (i.e. left-wing fascists) do you figure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    'just' communists
    Yes mr.. McCarthy .have you no shame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne View Post
    I went to war for this country and I was wounded. I care about the United States. Apart from my time in the military, I've gone to school, worked and lived in the Great State of Wisconsin.

    But the election of Donald Trump as president sickens me. He is a disgusting example of an American leader. He serves himself, not this country, not the free world. He is a egotistical narcissist who constantly lies. I find it incredible that he was elected president, but I doubt that he'll last in office more than one year.

    God help the United States.

    Regards,

    Bourne
    Thank you for this post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Odd how them socialist Nordic countries score so high on the conservative herritage foundation's index of economic freedom.
    Their economic freedom will have to do a little belt tightening to deal with all new "immigrants & Muslim guests"

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    lol. Leftists point and scream "fascist!" and "nazi!" every other breath.

    insinuate they're communists, and the duplicitous snowflakes get all butthurt.....and strangely defensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    'just' communists
    What? Did I miss where they're trying to collectivize the farms, the banks, even your friendly local butcher? Communist my ass! That word gets misused a lot by the right in a dishonest attempt to demonize the left. That tactic is utterly disgusting.
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