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    Hamilton Knew Trump Intimately One Could Say

    Or at a minimum it appears he knew a Trump and a zealot population was coming when he said this:

    "The truth unquestionably is that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the country is by flattering the prejudices of the people and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion and bring on civil commotion," adding "Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security."

    And he added:

    "Those, then, who resist a confirmation of public order are the true artificers of monarchy – not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected. When a man unprincipled in private life, desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits – despotic in his ordinary demeanour – known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty – when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity – to join in the cry of danger to liberty – to take every opportunity of embarrassing the general government & bringing it under suspicion – to flatter and fall in with all the nonsense of the zealots of the day – It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.”

    Alexander Hamilton
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    Hamilton loved to hear himself talk.

    Why say something simply when you could use three paragraphs to explain one sentence?

    Kudos to you if you had the patience to read his stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Why say something simply when you could use three paragraphs to explain one sentence?
    Public discourse - whether spoken or written - took a different form in Hamilton's day, and was designed for the educated and literate. One was expected to raise the level of debate, not lower it to the least common denominator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Hamilton loved to hear himself talk.

    Why say something simply when you could use three paragraphs to explain one sentence?

    Kudos to you if you had the patience to read his stuff.
    Now you are an expert on Alexander Hamilton? ROFLMAO

    Too bad you weren't around to teach Hamilton how to speak. Again, ROFLMAO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Hamilton loved to hear himself talk.

    Why say something simply when you could use three paragraphs to explain one sentence?

    Kudos to you if you had the patience to read his stuff.
    OMG! I sure hope you are just being provocative and don't actually believe what you typed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Public discourse - whether spoken or written - took a different form in Hamilton's day, and was designed for the educated and literate. One was expected to raise the level of debate, not lower it to the least common denominator.
    How logical of you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Public discourse - whether spoken or written - took a different form in Hamilton's day, and was designed for the educated and literate. One was expected to raise the level of debate, not lower it to the least common denominator.
    The state of discourse, public or otherwise, has been in decline for a century or more. Just tracking the "grade level" of published writing shows a significant simplifying of ordinary discourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    The state of discourse, public or otherwise, has been in decline for a century or more. Just tracking the "grade level" of published writing shows a significant simplifying of ordinary discourse.
    When bush was in the whitehouse, a friend bought a record set of JFK's speeches because she "wanted her teenage son to know what a real president sounded like?"
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