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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    If commerce is too complicated for them, maybe they shouldn't go into business. Sorry, you can side with criminals all you want, I'm not going down that route. Telling the state trooper you weren't aware of what the speed limit was doesn't mean you didn't break the law and won't be ticketed.
    lol. you're not worth my time.

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    lol. you're not worth my time.
    You weren't up to it from the beginning. Everyone could see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    You weren't up to it from the beginning. Everyone could see it.
    Does the trooper catch every speeder? Is that the speeder's fault? Has the "war on drugs" been particularly effective? Is that the drug traffickers' and illicit drug users' fault? Laws only offer consequences for people who are caught violating them...if we only endeavor to address one side of the equation...levy even heavier punishments (over and above what we have currently) and strictly enforce laws that prohibit the hiring of illegals, while going light on border security infrastructure and the illegals themselves (to the point of luring them here with politically expedient rhetoric), we're just pretending to give a shit about illegal immigration. Which was never more obvious than during The Lightworker's tenure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Does the trooper catch every speeder? Is that the speeder's fault? Has the "war on drugs" been particularly effective? Is that the drug traffickers' and illicit drug users' fault? Laws only offer consequences for people who are caught violating them...if we only endeavor to address one side of the equation...levy even heavier punishments (over and above what we have currently) and strictly enforce laws that prohibit the hiring of illegals, while going light on border security infrastructure and the illegals themselves (to the point of luring them here with politically expedient rhetoric), we're just pretending to give a shit about illegal immigration. Which was never more obvious than during The Lightworker's tenure.
    Catch every speeder? Hell, not everyone gets caught but as opposed to what you want, you should hold the criminals you catch accountable.

    You're making less sense than usual. You should've quit when you scurried away the first time.
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    Trying to place the lionshare of the blame for illegal immigration at the feet of business owners...on capitalism... is akin to blaming the junkie's addiction on the fact heroin exists, is not too risky or difficult to attain, and can be had for a few dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    Catch every speeder? Hell, not everyone gets caught but as opposed to what you want, you should hold the criminals you catch accountable.

    You're making less sense than usual. You should've quit when you scurried away the first time.
    Again, I'm perfectly okay with the $10K fine/10 year prison term per illegal for businesses that are caught willfully flouting the law. I don't know where you got the idea I wasn't. What I'm NOT okay with is the politically expedient attempt by leftists to project the blame for illegal immigration on businesses when leftists have been luring them here with their politics for decades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Trying to place the lionshare of the blame for illegal immigration at the feet of business owners...on capitalism... is akin to blaming the junkie's addiction on the fact heroin exists, is not too risky or difficult to attain, and can be had for a few dollars.
    Who is doing that? I'm saying punish them both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humorme View Post
    If we toss employers into prison for giving their jobs to the candidate they think will serve them best, then we have to be saying that the job the employer created is not theirs. If the jobs do not belong to the employers that own the companies that create the opening, then the state must own the jobs. Understand?

    There is a term that seems to elude me at the moment. It describes a form of government where the state owns labor and production. Anyway, somebody owns the job.
    Employers need to choose candidates that are eligible for the job. You don't get to choose the best candidate if they are ineligible.
    The state does own the right to define legal status. That is the pool employers get to choose from, and they know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Has Trump made any moves yet toward disincentivizing the hiring of unauthorized workers?

    Any more enforcement or penalties planned for employers who break the law?
    I don't understand why we never took that approach, instead chasing ghosts at the border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Trying to place the lionshare of the blame for illegal immigration at the feet of business owners...on capitalism... is akin to blaming the junkie's addiction on the fact heroin exists, is not too risky or difficult to attain, and can be had for a few dollars.
    People don't migrate in a vacuum. If there are no illegal jobs, and no employers to provide them, then theres no attraction to come.
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