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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Seriously? Could you post anything more stupid? Many are there purely for work in the resource sector. I can't believe you posted such a brain dead comment.
    What's the "resource sector"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Too bad. No one is forced to live in Alaska....if Alaskans wanted all of the comforts, conveniences and bargains of the lower 48, they'd live in the lower 48.
    Alaskans want to be able to access their own land and resources. The federal government owns most of our state and prohibits us from doing much of anything with it. In exchange they give various handouts. You want to end the handouts, first end the regulations that prohibit us from developing our economy.

    It doesn't do conservatism in general or the GOP any favors to make life unlivable in rural places. It just causes everyone to cram into dense urban centers where the majority will keep Democrats in power indefinitely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Alaskans want to be able to access their own land and resources. The federal government owns most of our state and prohibits us from doing much of anything with it. In exchange they give various handouts. You want to end the handouts, first end the regulations that prohibit us from developing our economy.

    It doesn't do conservatism in general or the GOP any favors to make life unlivable in rural places. It just causes everyone to cram into dense urban centers where the majority will keep Democrats in power indefinitely.
    People in the lower 48 choose to live in the boonies....parts of Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona, Nebraska, the Dakotas are extremely remote. Is it the federal government's responsibility to accommodate and subsidize their travel needs?

    I don't know...seems sort of Obama Phone-ish to me....speaking of 'conservatism in general'

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    There's no way around the fact that flights are bad news for the environment. It's not just that planes are worse than most other forms of transport in terms of the impact of greenhouse gases per passenger mile. Just as important is the simple fact that flying allows us to travel a far greater number of miles than we otherwise could. Thanks to these two factors, individual trips by air can have a remarkably large carbon footprint

    Source: https://www.theguardian.com/environm...iation-q-and-a

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Urbanek View Post
    There's no way around the fact that flights are bad news for the environment. It's not just that planes are worse than most other forms of transport in terms of the impact of greenhouse gases per passenger mile. Just as important is the simple fact that flying allows us to travel a far greater number of miles than we otherwise could. Thanks to these two factors, individual trips by air can have a remarkably large carbon footprint

    Source: https://www.theguardian.com/environm...iation-q-and-a

    Your message seems to be distorting big versus little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Your message seems to be distorting big versus little.
    A lot of small, individual actions add up to a big impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Trump budget cuts air service in rural communities | TheHill

    "President Trump’s budget would end federal support for air service in rural communities, many of which voted for him in the election.

    The spending blueprint, released Thursday, proposes entirely eliminating funding for the Essential Air Service (EAS) program, arguing that EAS flights “are not full and have high subsidy costs per passenger” and that “several EAS-eligible communities are relatively close to major airports.”

    The 40-year old program, which costs taxpayers about $175 million per year, gives small towns and communities access to air service, providing better access to businesses in those areas. Some local officials have said they could not continue air service without federal subsidies."


    I doubt this will make it through the Republican-controlled Congress, given how many rural votes feed their party. Alaska in particular depends on this, given we do not have road systems connecting our communities to everywhere else.
    Well, your Governor Sarah Palin DID want to build that famous 'Bridge to Nowhere'. As I recall, it was some bridge connecting a small town of about five thousand people to an uninhabited island.

    Maybe you need to better prioritize exactly what roads you need? A road from Anchorage to Fairbanks seems pretty logical and necessary. A 'Bridge to Nowhere' seems kind of silly in comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLeRoy View Post
    Well, your Governor Sarah Palin DID want to build that famous 'Bridge to Nowhere'. As I recall, it was some bridge connecting a small town of about five thousand people to an uninhabited island.

    Maybe you need to better prioritize exactly what roads you need? A road from Anchorage to Fairbanks seems pretty logical and necessary. A 'Bridge to Nowhere' seems kind of silly in comparison.
    Palin withdrew her initial support...

    "Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer. Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island. Much of the public’s attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened"

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Palin withdrew her initial support...

    "Ketchikan desires a better way to reach the airport, but the $398 million bridge is not the answer. Despite the work of our congressional delegation, we are about $329 million short of full funding for the bridge project, and it’s clear that Congress has little interest in spending any more money on a bridge between Ketchikan and Gravina Island. Much of the public’s attitude toward Alaska bridges is based on inaccurate portrayals of the projects here. But we need to focus on what we can do, rather than fight over what has happened"
    Heh. Sarah only "withdrew her initial support" after the bridge became kind of a national mini-scandal, and the subject of much mockery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Trump budget cuts air service in rural communities | TheHill

    "President Trump’s budget would end federal support for air service in rural communities, many of which voted for him in the election.

    The spending blueprint, released Thursday, proposes entirely eliminating funding for the Essential Air Service (EAS) program, arguing that EAS flights “are not full and have high subsidy costs per passenger” and that “several EAS-eligible communities are relatively close to major airports.”

    The 40-year old program, which costs taxpayers about $175 million per year, gives small towns and communities access to air service, providing better access to businesses in those areas. Some local officials have said they could not continue air service without federal subsidies."


    I doubt this will make it through the Republican-controlled Congress, given how many rural votes feed their party. Alaska in particular depends on this, given we do not have road systems connecting our communities to everywhere else.
    Well, aren't you glad you voted for him?

    *Think twice, vote once...*

    Thx

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