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    told you so Amelia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    the young people in this country are losing 1/2 trillion dollars a year of their future.
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    Well, in that case we need to give the rich a massive tax cut, that will surely fix all of our problems.
    seems legit

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    Well, in that case we need to give the rich a massive tax cut, that will surely fix all of our problems.
    You forgot the sarcasm alert. Someone might actually take this seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thx1138 View Post
    My mother and I used to deliver meals in Twin Falls Idaho.

    (It's probably one of the most exciting things to do in Twin Falls, lol. )

    And those people were indeed "shut-ins" and I have no doubt that without the program they just would have went hungry...

    One of the most worthwhile programs I could imagine...

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    I agree...they will go hungry. When elderly people live alone, they are lonely and depressed. My Mom had a few, that she would actually feed them their dinner and encourage them to eat. She was the highlight of their day because she was the only person they saw. Trump doesn't seem to care about people like that...I doubt he knows they exist that is how out of touch he is with the American people. If this program is cancelled, I hope the communities and churches step up to continue it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I agree...they will go hungry. When elderly people live alone, they are lonely and depressed. My Mom had a few, that she would actually feed them their dinner and encourage them to eat. She was the highlight of their day because she was the only person they saw. Trump doesn't seem to care about people like that...I doubt he knows they exist that is how out of touch he is with the American people. If this program is cancelled, I hope the communities and churches step up to continue it.
    The problem is that the states, communities and churches have been stepping up to fill the funding gaps created in response to federal tax relief since 1980, and they're just about out of resources. States also tend to compete with one another nowadays to lure new businesses by offering tax breaks, so that's one less source of revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    So your trying to derail the thread - do you actually have a coherent thought about the actual topic?
    Asking a Trumpster if he has a coherent thought. That's funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    BALTIMORE — In a dimly lit church basement, James Gaymon III spent much of Thursday staring at practice questions as he prepared for his high school general equivalency diploma exam. He recently moved into an apartment two blocks from the underpass where he spent 20 years sleeping, and often smoking crack. Now Mr. Gaymon is sober and taking classes at an adult learning center run by Strong City Baltimore, a nonprofit that operates with federal funds from the Community Development Block Grant program — which President Trump’s budget for fiscal 2018 would eliminate.

    Mr. Gaymon’s worries echoed across the country’s urban centers on Thursday as city leaders, nonprofits and poverty experts lamented Mr. Trump’s proposed budget, which would make drastic cuts to programs aimed at helping the country’s inner cities and some of its most vulnerable populations. Mr. Trump spent months on the campaign trail promising to fix “broken” inner cities, appealing to African-Americans with the question, “What do you have to lose?

    In terms of money, the answer turns out to be: plenty. Mr. Trump would cut the budget of the Department of Housing and Urban Development by 13 percent and eliminate programs like the Community Development Block Grant, which cities have used to fund programs like Meals on Wheels as well as homeless shelters and neighborhood revitalization initiatives. His budget proposal would eliminate the Commerce Department’s Minority Business Development Agency, the Education Department’s 21st Century Community Learning Centers, which run before- and after-school programs, as well as low-income heating assistance, community services block grants and the HOME Investment Partnership, which helps state and local governments build, buy and rehabilitate affordable housing.

    It would cut funding for rental assistance and job training. In fact, the budget reaches deep into every agency to cut programs for the urban poor. Even the Department of Energy’s small weatherization program to help insulate the houses of the poor — obscure to even seasoned government watchers — would be eliminated.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/u...ams-trump.html

    MM is deplorable.
    He is deplorable and Trump's policies are going to hurt the deplorable people that voted for him the most. Serves them right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    It's alarming, and the pattern is even more threatening. Trump would force more people into poverty, and then deal with the poor more harshly.

    By a wide, wide margin.
    Shrug. It's called Social Darwinism. It has become a major component of Republican ideology. Ironically enough, the same party wants to get alla that Darwan ape-man monkee bizness noncents outta are skools. But they LIKE the message of Darwinism as applied to human societies. If the poor starve, it removes their defective genes from the human gene pool, and probably serves them right, anyway, the good-fer-nuthin' lazy bums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    the young people in this country are losing 1/2 trillion dollars a year of their future.
    Maybe we should stop fighting silly wars in far-off foreign countries.

    Those DO have a way of becoming very expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    For Twenty years he lived under an overpass smoking crack with every cent he could muster.
    what should we give him ?
    Some compassion. Some sign that the thought 'There but for the grace of God go I' has ever passed through your mind. Something like that.

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    Why couldn't states buck up the necessary funding? What? They don't have the money? Either does the federal government.

    Its great to play on emotion, it really hits people, and you can call people uncaring that say anything other than we should help those people. But the reality is that we are 20 trillion in debt. Let states handle it. Let states raise taxes.

    I mean I guess you could argue lets not increase military spending, and I'll agree with that, but that's probably going to happen.

    Dealing with that reality and the potential cuts, why would states opt to eliminate these programs? They could keep them going if they choose to pay for them.

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