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    Do you, a free person, see Muslim females as slaves?

    Do you, a free person, see Muslim females as slaves?

    In the more right wing of Islam, females are what I would call slaves. I am prompted to think in that term because if I were a Muslim man living under Sharia, I can buy myself a few child brides. There is also little stopping me from doing the same, --- where Muslims live under Sharia law, --- in new adopted countries in the free world. Slavery returns to the West.

    Fraternité, if I may remind the English speakers, means a fiduciary relationship to all other people. Slave is appropriate here. Fraternité and honesty also forces that I must look at Muslim females as slaves.

    Do I, as a free man, have any responsibility to free these Muslim women, who inadvertently help propagate slavery by their lack of revolt against it?

    The West also helps propagate slavery by allowing it into the West.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtY5bv-oxLE

    If I, as a free man, hold a responsibility to free slaves, as a free person, do you?

    How much tolerance should tolerant nations give to a huge slave trading religion and government system?

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    I do think woman are 2nd class citizens in most religions. Their are countries like Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia that keep woman oppressed and I believe we have to do more to show disapproval much like we did with South Africa and Apartheid. I know for a fact that most young people living in these strict religious homes (especially the girls) can't wait to leave. Unfortunately except for the very wealthy the girls do not leave home to get an education or see the world so there only out is marriage and then of course they are usually expected to BEHAVE.

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    They have rights in Syria. Too bad the West wants to turn it into an Islamic shithole and take them away.

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    I see instances where all kinds of women feel trapped in relationships with a person who demands they be sub servant and obedient or else they and their kids are in mortal danger..it's not just Muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    I do think woman are 2nd class citizens in most religions. Their are countries like Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia that keep woman oppressed and I believe we have to do more to show disapproval much like we did with South Africa and Apartheid. I know for a fact that most young people living in these strict religious homes (especially the girls) can't wait to leave. Unfortunately except for the very wealthy the girls do not leave home to get an education or see the world so there only out is marriage and then of course they are usually expected to BEHAVE.
    I agree that we need to show our disapproval for all religions like Islam who promote and practice open slavery.

    Muslims are too cowardly to fight the hard fight; that being for the hearts and minds. They take the cowards way out and use the sword to sell their corrupt religion.

    The only way to bring peace to the warring factions is to cut off their funding. The world is not ready to do that as yet because our damned love of war has yet to be appeased.

    When it is, men will remember their duty to all children and not enslave half of them, the female half, when they leave the womb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sassy View Post
    They have rights in Syria. Too bad the West wants to turn it into an Islamic shithole and take them away.
    The issue is the free world ignoring the non-free world.

    Do you have an opinion my friend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    Do you, a free person, see Muslim females as slaves?

    In the more right wing of Islam, females are what I would call slaves. I am prompted to think in that term because if I were a Muslim man living under Sharia, I can buy myself a few child brides. There is also little stopping me from doing the same, --- where Muslims live under Sharia law, --- in new adopted countries in the free world. Slavery returns to the West.

    Fraternité, if I may remind the English speakers, means a fiduciary relationship to all other people. Slave is appropriate here. Fraternité and honesty also forces that I must look at Muslim females as slaves.

    Do I, as a free man, have any responsibility to free these Muslim women, who inadvertently help propagate slavery by their lack of revolt against it?

    The West also helps propagate slavery by allowing it into the West.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtY5bv-oxLE

    If I, as a free man, hold a responsibility to free slaves, as a free person, do you?

    How much tolerance should tolerant nations give to a huge slave trading religion and government system?

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    First, we should tell the truth.

    …rape and sexual violence is not permitted in Islamic texts. It is of course something that causes harm to other humans, which is not Halal (permissible) and, in early Muslim communities, rape was a crime punishable by death.

    The truth about Muslims and sex slavery - according to the Koran, rather than Isis or Islamophobes | The Independent
    but never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    I see instances where all kinds of women feel trapped in relationships with a person who demands they be sub servant and obedient or else they and their kids are in mortal danger..it's not just Muslims.
    True. But most of those instances are not cheered on by an Islamic and Sharia type of religion/legal system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    First, we should tell the truth.



    but never mind.
    Nice that you call me a liar, yet do not show the lie.

    But never mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldendog View Post
    I see instances where all kinds of women feel trapped in relationships with a person who demands they be sub servant and obedient or else they and their kids are in mortal danger..it's not just Muslims.
    That's the proper way to pose the question.

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