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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    used to be using the term "double standard" would suffice ? Not so much since Trump took office. We need new terms to describe the ginormous right-wing Obama/Trump equivocating going on. Maybe "triple somersault" standard.
    Obama did have a better relationship with the media. He never banned CNN from the white house, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    they are a strange lot. They'll say we shouldn't take Trump literally. When asked if they believed all of Trump's campaign promises , they'll admit they didn't. Some of them will even admit it was all an act. But, they'll stop short of calling Trump a liar? I'd be curious to know what other word they'd use to describe someone that's being willfully deceitful with their speech?
    He's now a politician trying to learn how to lie smoothly like Bill and Barack. He'll never be as good as they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Obama did have a better relationship with the media. He never banned CNN from the white house, for example.
    on that it's the media own fault. I get that they are obliged to cover Trump. But, there needs to be a little more solidarity. When he calls one network out, or bans one of them , all of them should protest.

    BTW, caught Jake Tapper on Bill Maher. He admitted that his network covered Trump's entire rallies and treated him like he was the president during their coverage of him during the campaign. But, he said it was early on. Which wasn't true. I recall seeing them covering Trump's bloody plane taking off and landing. Bill called him out on how they covered HRC too. Really critical of liberals on that show. Including Rachel Maddow covering Trump's taxes. Which I really didn't agree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Obama did have a better relationship with the media. He never banned CNN from the white house, for example.
    The media colluded with Obama to sell his lies. They enabled him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    He's now a politician trying to learn how to lie smoothly like Bill and Barack. He'll never be as good as they were.
    You are hopeless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    He's now a politician trying to learn how to lie smoothly like Bill and Barack. He'll never be as good as they were.
    yeah, he's a pretty stupid liar.

    I agree.

    Lying about things that people can objectively observe right in front of their faces. Good example. I watched with my own eyes once when he claimed CNN had just turned their cameras off because of what he said. He stood there and lied his ass off looking right into the CNN camera. I know this because I was watching him on CNN at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    you miss that whole "if you like your doctor you can keep them" saga. Right-wingers still bring that one up. Took about 2 sec to find this one.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.ec8e098262e3

    The difference now is that Trump has convinced his supporters to go out and call anything reported on his lies as "fake news". That and , as your OP indicates, there suddenly a lot of selective amnesia going on in right wing circle.

    The "if you like your doctor you can keep them" case is not a good example to use.

    That was an example of the media failing to call Obama out when it still mattered. Took them until late 2013 to acknowledge what they should have outed by early 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Because everyone is in on the joke. With Obama, everyone didn't know when he was lying and when he was not because he was so smooth about it.

    Obama is a modern media character, smooth, appearing in control, sly.

    Trump is a 19th century PT Barnum like character and he is offensive to those who like their lies served up so you can't tell they are lies until much later.
    this isn't a joke and "everyone" most certainly isn't in on it. Trump isn't PT Barnum. He's a pathological liar. We happen to be at war right now. There are people in harms way that are effected by what our president says. He's putting a bigger target on America's back with his recklessness. Lying about threats from mostly Muslim nations is a good example. But, hardly the only one. Obama kept us safe and even got Bin Laden. Trump is a dangerous buffoon and it's just a matter of time before his lying gets someone killed. If it already hasn't happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    You are hopeless.
    Yes, lying to save your party's obliterated talking points two months before an election in the shadow of four dead Americans was so inconsequential.

    "It's old news" said the press as soon as it was clear that Obama and Hillary had been lying for three weeks.

    Lying to the country about having sex with an intern in the oval office just didn't matter.

    "It's his sex life and no big deal" said the press....

    Lying about the consequences of a major piece of legislation just doesn't measure up to the standards of Trump lies.

    A Trump lie may end up being consequential, but so far he's on the JV team and has not crossed that red line yet. (Did I refer to two more Obama lies? Oooops!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    The "if you like your doctor you can keep them" case is not a good example to use.

    That was an example of the media failing to call Obama out when it still mattered. Took them until late 2013 to acknowledge what they should have outed by early 2010.
    bullshit.

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