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    Trump's Base Turns On Him

    Donald Trump’s true believers are losing the faith. As Trump struggles to keep his campaign promises and flirts with political moderation, his most steadfast supporters — from veteran advisers to anti-immigration activists to the volunteers who dropped their jobs to help elect him — are increasingly dismayed by the direction of his presidency.

    Their complaints range from Trump’s embrace of an interventionist foreign policy to his less hawkish tone on China to, most recently, his marginalization of his nationalist chief strategist, Steve Bannon. But the crux of their disillusionment, interviews with nearly two dozen Trump loyalists reveal, is a belief that Trump the candidate bears little resemblance to Trump the president. He’s failing, in their view, to deliver on his promise of a transformative “America First” agenda driven by hard-edged populism. "Donald Trump dropped an emotional anchor. He captured how Americans feel," said Tania Vojvodic, a fervent Trump supporter who founded one of his first campaign volunteer networks. "We expect him to keep his word, and right now he's not keeping his word."

    Earlier this week, Vojvodic launched a Facebook group called, “The concerned support base of President Trump,” which quickly drew several dozen sign-ups. She also changed the banner on her Facebook page to a picture of Bannon accompanied by the declaration: “Mr. President: I stand with Steve Bannon.” "I'm not so infatuated with Trump that I can't see the facts," she said. "People's belief, their trust in him, it’s declining."

    The swiftness and abruptness of Trump’s shift from bomb-throwing populist outsider to a more mainstream brand of Republican has taken the president’s stalwarts by surprise.

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    His dismal approval rating was only being propped up by his most ardent supporters. Have to wonder what his approval rating will look like next week.

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    Not the ones I know. They are steadfastly behind whatever he does. Plus all this military action with missiles and bombs is thrilling the establishment. Like McCain and Graham saying he is now "presidential."

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Not the ones I know. They are steadfastly behind whatever he does. Plus all this military action with missiles and bombs is thrilling the establishment. Like McCain and Graham saying he is now "presidential."
    That's the irony of it all. He ran on bashing the establishment and it appears that is what he is turning into too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    That's the irony of it all. He ran on bashing the establishment and it appears that is what he is turning into too.
    Steve Kornacki on MSNBC is discussing this right now with Andrew Card. Card said he was "terrified" of a Trump presidency but now more comfortable with him now that he is evolving.

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    I'm not so sure it's his "base," as they seem to be OK with whatever he does or says no matter what. A lot of people do seem disillusioned, for sure, but one has to wonder just what they expected. Trump changed every time the political wind shifted, to the point that there was no telling just what he might do as president.

    One of his most disillusioned supporters has to be Vladimir Putin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Steve Kornacki on MSNBC is discussing this right now with Andrew Card. Card said he was "terrified" of a Trump presidency but now more comfortable with him now that he is evolving.
    LOL that he's evolving. They said the same thing after he addressed Congress and that didn't last long.

    70 year old men don't change on a dime.

    Let's say he does become more "establishment" - that goes against everything his core base wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Not the ones I know. They are steadfastly behind whatever he does. Plus all this military action with missiles and bombs is thrilling the establishment. Like McCain and Graham saying he is now "presidential."
    That is like some on PH that are sticking with Don regardless of what he does. They, like Trump, do not really have a fixed set of ideals and values.

    Their ideals are... everything R is good ...everything D is bad.

    Then there are people on PH that distanced themselves long ago and some more recently.

    I think the OP was clear on which Trump supporter is having problems in the 3.0 version of DJTrump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Donald Trump’s true believers are losing the faith. As Trump struggles to keep his campaign promises and flirts with political moderation, his most steadfast supporters — from veteran advisers to anti-immigration activists to the volunteers who dropped their jobs to help elect him — are increasingly dismayed by the direction of his presidency.

    Their complaints range from Trump’s embrace of an interventionist foreign policy to his less hawkish tone on China to, most recently, his marginalization of his nationalist chief strategist, Steve Bannon. But the crux of their disillusionment, interviews with nearly two dozen Trump loyalists reveal, is a belief that Trump the candidate bears little resemblance to Trump the president. He’s failing, in their view, to deliver on his promise of a transformative “America First” agenda driven by hard-edged populism. "Donald Trump dropped an emotional anchor. He captured how Americans feel," said Tania Vojvodic, a fervent Trump supporter who founded one of his first campaign volunteer networks. "We expect him to keep his word, and right now he's not keeping his word."

    Earlier this week, Vojvodic launched a Facebook group called, “The concerned support base of President Trump,” which quickly drew several dozen sign-ups. She also changed the banner on her Facebook page to a picture of Bannon accompanied by the declaration: “Mr. President: I stand with Steve Bannon.” "I'm not so infatuated with Trump that I can't see the facts," she said. "People's belief, their trust in him, it’s declining."

    The swiftness and abruptness of Trump’s shift from bomb-throwing populist outsider to a more mainstream brand of Republican has taken the president’s stalwarts by surprise.

    Trump?s base turns on him - POLITICO


    His dismal approval rating was only being propped up by his most ardent supporters. Have to wonder what his approval rating will look like next week.
    typical media. find a set of people who will give the narrative you are looking for to produce a story/headline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    typical media. find a set of people who will give the narrative you are looking for to produce a story/headline.
    In other words, you have nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not so sure it's his "base," as they seem to be OK with whatever he does or says no matter what. A lot of people do seem disillusioned, for sure, but one has to wonder just what they expected. Trump changed every time the political wind shifted, to the point that there was no telling just what he might do as president.

    One of his most disillusioned supporters has to be Vladimir Putin.
    The problem is his base will always vote for him whether they agree with him or not. They may be not pleased but he will still have their vote. As I mentioned above, its interesting to see the establishment GOP coming on board. One of my coworkers said Mitt Romney was on tv earlier today claiming that Trump is now coming into reality and learning so he could definitely see him working with the Presdent if he decides to run for Orrin Hatch's seat in Utah. That's a big change. I am wondering if the GOP isn't "normalizing" him now.

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