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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    what we have, people spoke individuals who are russian.

    anything else?
    Your opinion smells shitty.
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    "This will be an unusual statement in at least a couple ways. First, I am going to include more detail about our process than I ordinarily would, because I think the American people deserve those details in a case of intense public interest. Second, I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government. They do not know what I am about to say."
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    Does Comey still "think the American people deserve those details in a case of intense public interest"?

    If so, will conclusions or anyone's or agency's conclusions about the "details in a case of intense public interest" be the same, as they were with the investigation into Hillary Clinton's e-mails, when it comes to the same sort of "objectivity" and this specific case?

    Were the cases intertwined, which may have meant information about one, could not be forwarded about the other, without either jeopardizing the investigation of the other?

    In other words, could the "hostile actors" Comey mentions in his statement on HRC e-mails, have been some of the same connected to the investigation into all of Trumpty dumpties men and that case was still ongoing, so conclusions and recommendations could not be made?

    Many of us in America are known for jumping to conclusions and hoping on "popular" opinion and in many cases, one can flip a coin and one will be "correct" in their choice, based on the odds of that happening in an "either-or" situation. While people may run out on a whim (without thinking about it) and drop $50,000 on a vehicle when their income is $50,000 or buy a home, far above their means, because they really liked it, most people do a lot of thinking and calculating facts and figures and doing the math to see whether what drives or looks fabulous, adds up to something that is realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    I think the democrats should just back off this being such a big deal. I mean, the US interfered with 81 separate elections over 54 years. That's over 1.5 per year. And it's not even including the times the US sponsored military coups to forcibly overthrow democratically elected governments.

    I know it sucks, but a nation as hostile to democracy as the US can't act all shocked and horrified when another country puts it's foot on our scale. They are just following the rules the US established, namely "make sure it works out in whatever way is best for us".
    The difference in this case is that a presidential campaign, or members of the campaign, may have colluded with that hostile nation to interfere with the election.
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    He himself meddled in the election with his release of that memo to congress so close to election, all which amounted to nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    what we have, people spoke individuals who are russian.

    anything else?
    You don't have any idea what knowledge and evidence the government has. With something as serious as this they're going to make sure they have all the Is dotted and Ts crossed before they make any announcements of what they know or make any arrests or indict anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    comey is ONLY the director of the FBI. nothing more. you seem to be claiming comey knows everything that the CIA, NSA and what the other intelligent agencies know.
    HELLO mtm1963, anybody of any substance behind your post? The CIA tells the FBI what they know is going on under their nose with US citizens. They passed the intel they get to the FBI when it concerns the US and they don't have authority over it.
    The FBI director is supposed to take it from there. Are you pretending to be ignorant or are you just ignorant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    That's not a legally viable reason to ignore possible illegal activity.
    True but maybe the evidence wasn't concrete yet and they figured they would figure it all out over time not expecting Trump to win and have it critical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    True but maybe the evidence wasn't concrete yet and they figured they would figure it all out over time not expecting Trump to win and have it critical.
    Yes, or Comey was negligent. He should resign and let someone else pass judgement and finish the investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Then he is guilty of what he accused HRC of doing; being careless with national security. He should resign. Let his second in command take over the investigation. It seems to me he has reason to hide facts that will point to his own negligence in not doing more sooner. This includes warning the American people that this was going on; that Trump and his campaign were under investigation, before the election.
    Not sure but I believe Comey serves at the discretion of the President for a period of time. He was appointed under Pres Obama and continues under Pres Trump. But he could be removed at any time. The fact that Pres Trump has not chosen to do so indicates he either has faith he did nothing wrong or he knows Comey isn't going to go after him. Is that plausible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    You're engaging in unfounded speculation. The investigation is ongoing. The FBI is not going to reveal nor comment upon an ongoing investigation, because doing so would prevent them from finding all of the relevant facts that they need for a successful prosecution. I suspect that the FBI is now aware of far more participants in this alleged conspiracy than they were when they were first tipped off by foreign intelligence agencies of what was transpiring. Let them build their case. Then we'll see what they discovered.
    But Comey did comment on an ongoing investigation when he came out on Halloween of 2016 and said they "might" have found new evidence on Huma Abedins/Anthony Weiner's computer. So technically he has gotten involved prior without knowing all the facts.

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