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    Maybe Comey should recuse himself given the new information coming to light.

    MAYBE COMEY SHOULD RECUSE HIMSELF GIVEN THE NEW INFORMATION COMING TO LIGHT.

    You think Comey will come out and say he and his staff were very careless in not taking the proper precautions to stop election meddling in the face of credible evidence from foreign intelligence?

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    The person described US intelligence as being “very late to the game”. The FBI’s director, James Comey, altered his position after the election and Trump’s victory, becoming “more affirmative” and with a “higher level of concern”.

    Comey’s apparent shift may have followed a mid-October decision by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (Fisa) court to approve a secret surveillance order. The order gave permission for the Department of Justice to investigate two banks suspected of being part of the Kremlin’s undercover influence operation.

    According to the BBC, the justice department’s request came after a tipoff from an intelligence agency in one of the Baltic states. This is believed to be Estonia.

    The Washington Post reported on Wednesday that the same order covered Carter Page, one of Trump’s associates. It allowed the FBI and the justice department to monitor Page’s communications. Page, a former foreign policy aide, was suspected of being an agent of influence working for Russia, the paper said, citing US officials.

    The application covered contacts Page allegedly had in 2013 with a Russian foreign intelligence agent, and other undisclosed meetings with Russian operatives, the Post said. Page denies wrongdoing and complained of “unjustified, politically motivated government surveillance”.

    Late last year Comey threw more FBI resources into what became a far-reaching counter-intelligence investigation. In March he confirmed before the House intelligence committee that the agency was examining possible cooperation between Moscow and members of the Trump campaign to sway the US election.

    Comey and the NSA director, Admiral Michael Rogers, said there was no basis for the president’s claim that he was a victim of Obama “wiretapping”. Trump had likened the unproved allegation to “McCarthyism”.

    Britain’s MI6 spy agency played a part in intelligence sharing with the US, one source said. MI6 declined to comment. Its former chief Sir Richard Dearlove described Trump’s wiretapping claim on Thursday as “simply deeply embarrassing for Trump and the administration”.


    “The only possible explanation is that Trump started tweeting without understanding how the NSA-GCHQ relationship actually works,” Dearlove told Prospect magazine.

    A GCHQ spokesperson said: “It is longstanding policy that we do not comment on intelligence matters”.

    It is unclear which individuals were picked up by British surveillance.

    In a report last month the New York Times, citing three US intelligence officials, said warning signs had been building throughout last summer but were far from clear. As WikiLeaks published emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee, US agencies began picking up conversations in which Russians were discussing contacts with Trump associates, the paper said.

    European allies were supplying information about people close to Trump meeting with Russians in Britain, the Netherlands and in other countries,
    the Times said.

    There are now multiple investigations going on in Washington into Trump campaign officials and Russia. They include the FBI-led counter-espionage investigation and probes by both the House and Senate intelligence committees.

    Adam Schiff, the senior Democrat on the House committee, has expressed an interest in hearing from Christopher Steele, the former MI6 officer whose dossier accuses the president of long-term cooperation with Vladimir Putin’s Moscow. Trump and Putin have both dismissed the dossier as fake.

    One source suggested the official investigation was making progress. “They now have specific concrete and corroborative evidence of collusion,” the source said. “This is between people in the Trump campaign and agents of [Russian] influence relating to the use of hacked material.”


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    Why was our government so slow to respond to what foreign intelligence people were telling them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Why was our government so slow to respond to what foreign intelligence people were telling them?
    Exactly. Was Comey being a Republican a factor in not taking direct action or was it the belief that HRC was going to win anyway and what difference would it make? Either way, he was derelict in his duty. KARMA IS A BITCH!! The old saying is don't spit in the air, it will eventually hit you in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Why was our government so slow to respond to what foreign intelligence people were telling them?
    Good question. I certainly hope it wasn't a case of nobody thought Trump would win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Why was our government so slow to respond to what foreign intelligence people were telling them?
    maybe they thought clinton would easily win, so why bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    maybe they thought clinton would easily win, so why bother.
    That's not a legally viable reason to ignore possible illegal activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    maybe they thought clinton would easily win, so why bother.
    Then he is guilty of what he accused HRC of doing; being careless with national security. He should resign. Let his second in command take over the investigation. It seems to me he has reason to hide facts that will point to his own negligence in not doing more sooner. This includes warning the American people that this was going on; that Trump and his campaign were under investigation, before the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    That's not a legally viable reason to ignore possible illegal activity.
    if there was something illegal, why ignore it?

    because there isn't.

    why would the obama administration sit on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    if there was something illegal, why ignore it?

    because there isn't.

    why would the obama administration sit on it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Then he is guilty of what he accused HRC of doing; being careless with national security. He should resign. Let his second in command take over the investigation. It seems to me he has reason to hide facts that will point to his own negligence in not doing more sooner. This includes warning the American people that this was going on; that Trump and his campaign were under investigation, before the election.
    see the above!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    if there was something illegal, why ignore it?

    because there isn't.

    why would the obama administration sit on it?
    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    see the above!
    You don't seem to understand how this works. Foreign Intelligence Agencies go to American Intelligence Agencies with concerns. It's not suppose to be the President Of the United States to tell American Agencies what to do with the intel; that's the job of the Directors that the Congress have confirmed to be in their position and do the right thing for their country AND not do what is politically advantageous for the Administration in power.

    IT WAS COMEY'S JOB AND HE FAILED. PRESIDENT OBAMA ONLY KNOWS WHAT THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES TOLD HIM. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT COMEY TOLD OBAMA ANYTHING PRIOR TO THE CIA DIRECTOR GOING TO CONGRESS AND SENATE INTEL AGENCIES TO BRIEF THEM ON WHAT WAS GOING ON. THE CIA DIRECTOR WAS CONCERNED THAT COMEY HAD DONE BASICALLY SHIT WITH THE INTEL THAT THEY WERE GIVEN.
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