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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    No, we are just tired of sounding like a broken record.

    We have shown you many times the exact law that congress passed removing conflict of interest from presidents.

    This means that a president can withdraw funds, run business ventures, sit on boards of directors if they like.

    There is no conflict of interest.

    Yet I guarantee that within 2 weeks you will start another conflict of interest thread.
    I agree with you.

    45's interest has always been him. He has no requirement to protect the US' interests. It is, and always will be...

    Donald Trump first, second, and always. There is no conflict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    I agree with you.

    45's interest has always been him. He has no requirement to protect the US' interests. It is, and always will be...

    Donald Trump first, second, and always. There is no conflict.
    Glad you agree then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Anyone can be corrupt but what does that have to do with this OP?

    Because Trump can withdraw HIS money that makes him corrupt?

    If you go to the ATM and pull money out does that make you corrupt?

    Yes, when you deposit cheques that are given to you as pay for special treatment in your role as President. China approves Trump's trade mark claims and then they do the same for his daughter, and all of a sudden China is no longer a currency manipulator. Yeah, America first my ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Yes, when you deposit cheques that are given to you as pay for special treatment in your role as President. China approves Trump's trade mark claims and then they do the same for his daughter, and all of a sudden China is no longer a currency manipulator. Yeah, America first my ass.
    So you believe they wouldn't have approved those if Trump wasn't president?

    How do you know this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    No, we are just tired of sounding like a broken record.

    We have shown you many times the exact law that congress passed removing conflict of interest from presidents.

    This means that a president can withdraw funds, run business ventures, sit on boards of directors if they like.

    There is no conflict of interest.

    Yet I guarantee that within 2 weeks you will start another conflict of interest thread.
    Oh it's so cute how a) you don't get that's he is violating the emolument clause - as several legal experts have pointed out and

    B) he could literally shoot someone you would still support him.

    So yeah, you don't get to lecture people here anymore about morals and integrity because you don't have either. Seems like you don't care how corrupt he is or how much damage he has already done to this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Yes, when you deposit cheques that are given to you as pay for special treatment in your role as President. China approves Trump's trade mark claims and then they do the same for his daughter, and all of a sudden China is no longer a currency manipulator. Yeah, America first my ass.
    Trump will go down in history as likely the most self serving and corrupt president's this country has ever tolerated. He and his family are disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    So you believe they wouldn't have approved those if Trump wasn't president?

    How do you know this?
    More important is do you know they wouldn't? The fact that he didn't get out of all foreign entanglements is on him not me. He should have because now he is left with the smell of being corrupt. This plus not showing his tax returns is too much for anybody to believe he is being honest.

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    Another example..

    THE FEDERAL RESERVE’S vice chair for supervision is arguably the most important financial regulator in the federal government. No agency has greater oversight responsibility of U.S. financial institutions than the Fed. And the vice chair influences what kinds of trades those institutions can make, how they must prepare for unexpected losses, and what punishment to mete out when banks fail to uphold the law. Hedge funds and private equity firms are sometimes called “shadow banks” because they exist outside the regulatory perimeter, even though they engage in bank-like lending and investment activities. They want to keep it that way. And President Trump’s expected nomination of Randal Quarles to the vice chair’s role is about as close a guarantee as the shadow banking sector can get that the feds won’t be bothering them any time soon.

    Quarles served two stints in the Treasury Department, under both Bush administrations, but afterward, he moved to the Carlyle Group, the $169 billion private equity giant. Quarles was part of the financial services team, which appears to be registered in the Cayman Islands tax haven.

    Carlyle raised $1.1 billion for this effort, and got the Federal Reserve and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation to loosen rules that prevented private equity firms from controlling a commercial bank outright, rather than just owning a minority stake. Quarles was at the forefront of that effort, lobbying government officials and writing op-eds touting the concept of deregulation for private equity.

    In 2009, Carlyle purchased BankUnited, a Miami-based lender, with a consortium that included Wilbur Ross, the current commerce secretary. The FDIC gave the group a shared-loss agreement, reimbursing between 80-95 percent of the losses on $11.7 billion in distressed assets. So the government shouldered practically all the downside, while Carlyle and its partners enjoyed all the upside.

    https://theintercept.com/2017/04/19/...on-at-the-fed/

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Oh it's so cute how a) you don't get that's he is violating the emolument clause - as several legal experts have pointed out and

    B) he could literally shoot someone you would still support him.

    So yeah, you don't get to lecture people here anymore about morals and integrity because you don't have either. Seems like you don't care how corrupt he is or how much damage he has already done to this country.
    He has not violated the emolument clause (which several experts have said) and I can link you to them if you like. It's doubtful you even know what it is.

    Was the shooting justified or do you just automatically assume his guilt? I am thinking the latter would be your choice.

    Please feel free to list the great damage Trump has caused in 4 months.
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    Another one..

    HANGHAI (AP) — Since her father was elected president of the United States, global sales of Ivanka Trump merchandise have surged and the company has applied for at least nine new trademarks in the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Canada and the U.S. The commercial engine of the first daughter's brand is stronger than ever even as she builds a new political career from her West Wing office. Sales hit record levels in 2017, despite boycotts and several stores limiting her merchandise. U.S. imports, almost all from China, shot up an estimated 166 percent last year.

    The brand, which Ivanka Trump no longer manages but still owns, says distribution is growing. It has launched new active wear and affordable jewelry lines, and is working to expand its global intellectual property footprint. In addition to applying for the new trademarks, Ivanka Trump Marks LLC has won provisional approval from the Chinese government for at least five since the inauguration.

    The commercial currents of President Donald Trump's White House are unprecedented in modern American politics, ethics lawyers say. They have created an unfamiliar landscape riven with ethical pitfalls, and forced consumers and retailers to wrestle with the unlikely passions now inspired by Ivanka Trump's mid-market collection of ruffled blouses, shifts and wedges.

    https://apnews.com/d9e34f23a64947d99e4a7d757012c509

    So many more examples - it's been happening ever since he took office.

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