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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    This is old news. I remember commenting when Trump first nominated Mr. Exxon. Shrub had Halliburton and Trump has Exxon. Symmetry is important.
    So you are against drilling for oil?

    How do you suggest we build all the oil based products we use everyday?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Oh jesus, spare me the bleeding heart.

    I don't hear you complaining about all the other needless deaths around the world. Why aren't you yelling for sanctions against any multitude of nations in Africa or Southeast Asia that are committing horrendous crimes?

    This selective outrage is annoying.
    There are very good reasons why there are sanctions of Russia - full stop.

    CA gets 55% of their energy needs from renewable. Don't need big oil that much anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    There are very good reasons why there are sanctions of Russia - full stop.

    CA gets 55% of their energy needs from renewable. Don't need big oil that much anyone.
    Take care of your liberals home state and fuck the rest of the nation huh?

    Yes, I see that life is so precious to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Take care of your liberals home state and fuck the rest of the nation huh?

    Yes, I see that life is so precious to you.
    Everything is going to renewable energy these days.

    Heck even Exxon is getting on board with it because they know that is the future. Oil supplies, while being not only crappy for the environment, they will eventually run out

    Recent reports say Shell, the Anglo-Dutch oil conglomerate, is to invest $1.7 billion in forming a new company division aimed specifically at developing renewable energy and low carbon power.

    This follows on the heels of an announcement by the French oil company Total, another of the oil giants, that it is stepping up its investments in clean energy, spending more than $1 bn buying Saft, a major battery manufacturer. Total has also purchased a majority share in SunPower, a leading solar concern.

    Even ExxonMobil, for long an organisation which cast doubt on the whole science of global warming, has recently announced plans to investigate fuel cell technology in order to build carbon capture and storage facilities and eliminate greenhouse gas emissions from power installations.

    Exxon, Shell, Total, Statoil renew clean energy drive | Climate Home - climate change news

    But yeah, if those sections are over turned, not only does it give Putin just what he wants, it would greatly diminish our partnership with other countries.

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    For the future of this country and the world, yes! More oil is bad. We have to break the grip on the economy by big oil and big pollution.
    And, BTW more oil doesn't automatically signal lower prices to consumers. It just means more oil to gouge us with. I'm old enough to remember the rationing days in the early 70's when big oil tried to convince us all that we were running out of oil but when the price at the pump reached a dollar per gallon, suddenly there was unlimited supplies of the stuff.

    Exxon Mobil is not in business to make life easier on the middle class, far from it. These regulation busters and EPA destroyers of our water, air and earth need to be stopped. As far as Obama, he had no choice but to continue the use of fossil fuels because his efforts to fund start up companies to develop alt energies was cut off at the knees by your heroes.

    But, he never even suggested that big oil not live up to EPA regulations or that those regulations be weakened to suit their ambitions. But of course you see no underlying problems with this appointment of Tillerson or the Global Warming denier at EPA or the influx of the MIC into high gov't positions. Nor do you draw any relation to Russia's ambitions to interfere with our democracy while awaiting relief of the sanctions or his push to get a puppet regime installed that would allow those sanctions to lapse or its action of awarding our beloved Sec Of State with the highest civilian honor that Russia gives out.

    No connections to the corrupting influence of big oil to see here. So, move along people, nothing to see here at all, And, stop asking all these annoying questions and just be resigned to the fact that all we do is to help America and its people, especially the middle class. I'm sure you'll like the enormous tax break you'll receive under tax (reform) and the jobs created by giving the bulk of the dough to the wealthy because they also only care about the middle class.

    It's gonna be terrific, just like my health insurance bill was terrific.

    You are way beyond clueless and just like your President, you don't know shit!



    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    More oil is a bad thing?



    You know that most of the products you use are made of oil don't you?

    By the way, Obama and democrats actually had no problem with this deal until the Crimea affair so does that mean they are spy's for Russia also?

    Hmmmmm interesting indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by namvet69 View Post
    As far as Obama, he had no choice but to continue the use of fossil fuels because his efforts to fund start up companies to develop alt energies was cut off at the knees by your heroes.
    Obama could have done a lot more but chose his Wall Street donors over we the people. Obama deserves some credit for voters rejecting the democratic party in 2016.

    But the rest of your post is spot-on.

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    Russia is an Oil Producing nation.. and idiots are surprised that Oil companies have a connection to oil producers.

    YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING with the stupidity of that statement OF CORSE Russia has a connection to Oil Companies, THEY BUY OIL FROM RUSSIA..

    This is the Forrest Gump Thread of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    so EXXON is asking it's former CEO for a waiver of the sanctions.

    We're all just suppose to believe this wasn't planned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    so EXXON is asking it's former CEO for a waiver of the sanctions.

    We're all just suppose to believe this wasn't planned.
    Hmm you mean like when Hillary Gave Russia access to purchase 20% of our Ur resources, RIGHT after they gave Millions to the "Foundation" and hundreds of thousands in speaking engagements to Bill, Chelsea and Herself?

    That kind of conflict?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    There are very good reasons why there are sanctions of Russia - full stop.

    CA gets 55% of their energy needs from renewable. Don't need big oil that much anyone.
    BULL SHIT. Natural Gas is not a Renewable


    https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=CA

    Two-thirds of California households use natural gas for home heating, and about three-fifths of California's in-state utility-scale net electricity generation is fueled by natural gas.42,43

    only 7.5% of CA energy is from Renewable

    California became the first state in the nation to get more than 5% of its utility-scale electricity generation from its solar resource.81 In 2015, utility-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) and solar thermal resources supplied 7.5% of the state's net generation.82



    3/5ths of CA energy is from NATURAL GAS (60%) 55% from renewable is impossible

    only 7.5% of CA energy is from renewable sources. (According to the CA Department of Energy)

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