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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    When you take deliberately nasty pot-shots at another poster, it makes you look like a small-minded bully.
    Yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    People in this country can point out when they are unhappy with the president. They don't have to like everything he does, because that would be very dangerous.....to go along with whatever he wants and to not question it. That's totalitarianism, it leaves a people wide open to abusive policies.
    Saying your leader is a foreign agent = disagreement with policy...

    That's as fucking retarded (not downe syndrome but retarding the progress of humanity) as saying that disagreement with Obama was only because he was black.

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    I'm afraid to ask the known Trumpers around me how they like him as President. I don't want to come across as gloating if they've got buyer's remorse...and if they don't, I'm liable to call them a fucking idiot. So it's a conversation I just haven't had with anyone I like and respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    I think most of us realized that we were a fallen country when we learned that we had descended far enough that someone like Trump could secure the Republican nomination.

    Then when he was elected it was clear we were in an uncharted abyss.

    Oh, and people aren't giving up on him for the witch hunt. To the extent that those who supported him are giving up, it's because of his actions. The witch hunt is making some of them sympathetic, but he -- himself -- through is foolish actions -- is making them cringe and wish he wouldn't make it so hard for them to defend him.
    Right, so you had trump saying "we need to fix this country" vs Clinton saying "everything is awesome"...

    And now trump even doing a little to try and turn things around and suddenly it's chicken little, the sky is falling, the Russians are coming hysterical desire to make your country closer to Venezuela or north Korea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    I'm afraid to ask the known Trumpers around me how they like him as President. I don't want to come across as gloating if they've got buyer's remorse...and if they don't, I'm liable to call them a fucking idiot. So it's a conversation I just haven't had with anyone I like and respect.
    Just like believing bulls hit IN SPITE OF the piles of evidence to the contrary... that level of stupidity makes me think you guys deserve to live in the third world cess pit you are trying to create for yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Just like believing bulls hit IN SPITE OF the piles of evidence to the contrary... that level of stupidity makes me think you guys deserve to live in the third world cess pit you are trying to create for yourselves.
    Do you speak English?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I rarely hear conversations about politics at work...it is just an avoided topic. In casual environments with friends, we just avoid the subject as well. Trump isn't worth talking about and there are better things to discuss...fun things. I think the few that are hanging on to blind loyalty to Trump are just fans at this point. He was a celebrity and they are just part of the fan club. They know very little about the healthcare bill and just go along with it out of blind partisanship or lack of knowledge. If Trump says its good...it must be. LOL
    I really think its the celebrity factor. Many of these people knew Trump from tv. They were fans of his show and "get" him. They frankly don't care or understand politics. They are just basically star struck at the thought that a celebrity they like is president. As I said, these are a lot of people who aren't wonks like us who do tend to overthink things sometimes in trying for that "perfect" candidate. Rather these are people who would see Tom Hanks or the Rock running for president and just vote solely based on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    Nothing changes the fact that just about any mainstream source on the World Wide Web presents Trump as a boob and a continual failure way out of his depth.
    But honestly isn't that what they wanted and voted for? I mean if people say they are voting for someone without any political experience AT ALL for president, what should we expect? It isn't like this is running for a local council seat or first time mayor where things can be overlooked. This is the highest office in the land and being a "boob" or making mistakes on a daily basis is to be expected. Its precisely the reason people vote for outsiders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Right, so you had trump saying "we need to fix this country" vs Clinton saying "everything is awesome"...

    And now trump even doing a little to try and turn things around and suddenly it's chicken little, the sky is falling, the Russians are coming hysterical desire to make your country closer to Venezuela or north Korea.

    Stop right there. Clinton didn't say "everything is awesome". Both said "we need to fix this country". Clinton had extensive plans for doing so. She just didn't campaign on them well. Trump's ideas were superficial and in the months since he was elected he hasn't fleshed them out.

    Trump is a one man clusterfuck. All it takes is a ten-minute conversation with someone like a Chinese leader and his support collapses for yet another set of campaign promises. 18 days worth of work on a healthcare law and he's ready to sign anything, even something which is 180 degrees opposite of what he promised to the economically disenfranchised people who voted for him.

    He's singularly ignorant. I at least thought he would show some type of good business sense, and he's devoid even of that.


    Trump is embarrassing himself even more every day. It has to be exhausting for his supporters.

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    One day they may outlaw cursing here.

    Where will you go then?
    Why do you give a fuck?
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