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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Lots of points in your OP to talk about.

    Dumping human waste onto land raises its salt content and eventually makes the land not farmable, this is a major problem in Australia at the moment and they are quickly losing their ability for agriculture. This would be the main problem.
    If you followed the link, you heard how much water is required for every pound of beef we consume as well as the fact that beef produces more gas pollution than humans transportation. It would be better for the environment to dilute any salt in human waste with good fresh water saved form changing our diets to a more vegetable base.

    Sea levels will rise regardless of what we do so we should be starting our infrastructure fixes to deal with it now but instead the liberals think they can stop it.
    Give your head a shake girl.
    Eh, Trump and other right wingers are the climate change deniers. Not the left liberals.

    There is no limit to how many people the earth can handle we just may need to modify our ways to do it. Most of the world is devoid of people.
    True. Look at google earth and you can easily see why most of the world is devoid of people. Most of it cannot sustain a population.

    Bush had a plan to develop giant fisheries in the ocean if I remember correctly that would have produced enough food to feed the whole country. Something like that but it was quickly shot down. The point is that we can basically grow food anywhere and thanks to GMO's this becomes even easier.
    Yet even now, global climate change and desertification is causing massive hunger, while it is getting harder and harder to fish the seas economically.

    Human waste reeks, walk through any city that dumps their raw sewage in the street. Its extremely unhealthy.
    I agree and I see you missed my last line.

    Please follow that link and educate yourself. It opened my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    fish an whales an seals an otters an bears poop n pee in dere
    Yes but their arable land is not being blown away.

    They have no choice. We do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miller47 View Post
    Yeah, but wild bears do it in the woods.

    Some countries encourage using human waste to fertilize crops.

    N Korea is not the only one...
    In some countries, people pay for good old human poop so they can fertilize their home gardens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I pee outside all the time.
    News at 11.

    Kidding, I would not publicize the pictures.

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    I have done a 5 min Google search and can't find any reference to treated sewage water being high in salt content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    I have done a 5 min Google search and can't find any reference to treated sewage water being high in salt content.
    We do pass salts but I do not know if the processing and treating of sewage water takes it out.

    It does not matter if we pump to create more arable land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    I have done a 5 min Google search and can't find any reference to treated sewage water being high in salt content.
    It raises the natural salinity of the ground itself.

    Doesn't matter how much salt is in the waste itself.

    Overwatering produces the same result over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnostic Christian Bishop View Post
    We do pass salts but I do not know if the processing and treating of sewage water takes it out.

    It does not matter if we pump to create more arable land.

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    We have the ability now, or are very close to it, that we don't need to make land arable.

    Hell we can grow food in the ocean, scientists can now grow a tomato in the desert, no need to change the land.

    You are looking at this problem all wrong.

    And most of the land in not inhospitable to humans, we can live in any environment, we just won't spend the money to make it happen.

    We can build up, we can build down, we can build underwater......we can easily support as many people that will ever come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    It raises the natural salinity of the ground itself.

    Doesn't matter how much salt is in the waste itself.

    Overwatering produces the same result over time.
    That totally depends on the environment. Intense irrigation does that in areas where evaporation greatly exceeds dissipation into the groundwater. But in general, treated waste water is no worse than other sources of irrigation water.

    In areas where there is hard water, the treated sewage will have high chloride levels due to the effluent of water softeners but that also means any other source of water for irrigation will also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    That totally depends on the environment. Intense irrigation does that in areas where evaporation greatly exceeds dissipation into the groundwater. But in general, treated waste water is no worse than other sources of irrigation water.

    In areas where there is hard water, the treated sewage will have high chloride levels due to the effluent of water softeners but that also means any other source of water for irrigation will also.
    Yes this is true.

    But in regards to the OP it is a valid point. If you just think you can make any land farmable by dumping waste on it you are going to eventually ruin it for centuries in some parts. This means that vegetation will die followed by the animals and will create an ecological disaster in that area.

    Sure the NW could handle this but Arizona could not.

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