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    In Trump Budget, What Media Call 'Cuts' Are Really Increases

    The baseline budget should be gone. Trump is cutting how baseline works. The increases is smaller so liar democrats and liberals falsely call it a cut

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    The attacks on President Trump's new budget were predictable. Before it was published on Monday, the Washington Post's Dana Milbank described it as "cruelty wrapped in a lie."

    The budget proposes to increase government spending from $4 trillion today to $5.7 trillion in 2027. That's $1.7 trillion more over the next decade, but in Washington this is described as "budget cuts." Any normal person, looking at an increase of this magnitude, would say that this constitutes an increase.

    Looking at individual programs, it is misleading to state that spending on Medicaid programs will be cut, as many did this morning. The new budget proposes to increase federal Medicaid spending from $378 billion a year today to $524 billion a year in 2027. It shows how far removed Washington is from everyday Americans for this increase of $146 billion to be called a cut.

    The fundamental problem is that special interests are addicted to the rising path of spending. Altering this path by increasing spending at a slower rate always opens change-makers to extraordinary attacks, as we have seen today.

    Some other programs that are similarly described as cuts will also increase. Consider, for example, the Department of Agriculture's Child Nutrition Programs. The program had outlays of $23 billion in 2017, and President Trump has proposed for spending to rise to $34 billion in 2027, a 47% increase. True, this is less than the $29 billion increase that Congress has allocated. But it is still an increase.

    Then, consider the Department of Health and Human Services' Child Support and Family Support Programs, which Trump proposes to increase from $4 billion in 2017 to $5 billion in 2027, a 25% increase. Yes, $840 million has been trimmed from Congress' prior plans, but the program is still getting more funding.

    President Trump wants to increase funding from $61 billion in 2017 to $76 billion in 2027 for the Earned Income Tax Credit program, which supplements incomes of low earners and is administered by the Internal Revenue Service. Yes, $1 billion is cut from the baseline, but spending is still rising.

    Congressional spending is on automatic pilot due to our arcane budget processes. Congress puts in rising spending for the next decade, and people complain when the spending is trimmed. But the spending never goes negative it always rises.

    Many of the members of Congress who put the programs in place have died or retired. Still, the programs continue. Urban Institute scholar Eugene Steuerle wrote a book about the problem aptly called "Dead Men Ruling."

    Wasteful government programs cost taxpayers billions annually, according to the Government Accountability Office. America has over 90 anti-poverty programs, 17 food-aid programs and 22 housing-assistance programs. Partly as a result, the federal debt has tripled from less than $6 trillion in 1997 to almost $20 trillion today.
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    The liars in the MSM and the Democrat Party are shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    The liars in the MSM and the Democrat Party are shameful.
    Notice the liberals here are no where to be found. Seems they do not want the truth

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    They won't find it in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    They won't find it in this thread.
    The truth is there, the lies are in what democrats are saying about the budget

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    In Trump Budget, What Media Call 'Cuts' Are Really Increases

    So inflation and population growth for the next ten years should be ignored so the proposed budget can look generous?

    I agree government spending should be more efficient. I would rather see cuts to the military industrial side than to the public welfare side.

    BTW, why do rich people need tax relief right now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmayspaint View Post
    So inflation and population growth for the next ten years should be ignored so the proposed budget can look generous?

    I agree government spending should be more efficient. I would rather see cuts to the military industrial side than than to the public welfare side.

    BTW, why do rich people need tax relief right now?


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    The baseline budget system has put us in debt. We need to pay down our debt and get rid of the baseline budget system and have congress and the President do a budget every year

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The baseline budget system has put us in debt. We need to pay down our debt and get rid of the baseline budget system and have congress and the President do a budget every year
    What are you going to say when deficits increase every year for the next 4 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    What are you going to say when deficits increase every year for the next 4 years?
    What will you say when GDP stays above 3% which we have not seen in the last 8 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    What will you say when GDP stays above 3% which we have not seen in the last 8 years
    What are going to say when deficits keep increasing and the GDP does not get close to 3% growth? I know what you are going to say, you are going to make excuses for Trump, but they will not wash, your party has complete control of the government, you own everything that goes wrong....we will bring this thread up again in 6 months or so..see how much you are still loving your Orange Messiah.
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