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    Cuomo vs Trump in 2020?

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    “The truth is the middle class is under attack. The working families are under attack,” Andrew Cuomo bellows, his tough-guy accent coming in a little thick. “Middle class wages are behind where they were 20 years ago. Think about it. All the pundits on TV say, ‘We don’t understand why there is such anger and anxiety.’” Standing before a crowd of unionized hotel workers several hundred strong, the governor of New York rails against Republicans for feeding workers like them a lie all these years. He speaks to them like he alone understands what they have been going through, watching wages disappear while the rest of the country gets richer. “It’s the labor movement that built the middle class and it’s the labor movement that’s going to have to rebuild the middle class in this country,” he thunders. He has the room, completely."

    Cuomo is a big-name politician who has long seemed an extremely unlikely national candidate — until now, when suddenly he’s seeming like a very likely one. For much of his career, Cuomo has looked like another in this long line: someone too nakedly ambitious, too pushy, with too messy of a personal life—too, well, New Yorky—to play much beyond Buffalo and the Battery. But suddenly it seems that Americans are willing to pull the lever for a muscular, messy, rough-edged leader shouting for the common man, and suddenly the governor of New York is starting to show up on a lot of people’s lists.

    But if he runs, he’s got one big roadblock in his way first: The energy in the Democratic Party right now comes from a newly energized left. And the energized left, not to put too fine a point on it, hates Andrew Cuomo. When he at last became the second Cuomo to serve as governor of New York, by the standards of the state, he was barely a Democrat. It was in the depths of the Tea Party’s counter-revolt against Obama’s presidency; the state’s economic outlook was disastrous and Cuomo positioned himself firmly as a man of the center. He capped property taxes and let a tax on millionaires expire. He gathered a bunch of friends in the real estate industry to run an outside spending campaign on behalf of his agenda, rallied for charter schools, slashed pensions and the state workforce.

    “I’ll just be brazen and say it. If he decides to run for president, he’d be a really good president,” said Ken Sunshine, a public relations consultant for A-list celebrities and a longtime adviser to both Cuomos. “Yes, Andrew doesn’t come from lefty intellectual circles. Fine. I like it when Democrats win. And the alternative is a catastrophe.”

    Andrew Cuomo Could Beat Trump ? If He Can Win Over the Left First - POLITICO Magazine
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    This is funny,

    The energy in the Democratic Party right now comes from a newly energized left. And the energized left, not to put too fine a point on it, hates Andrew Cuomo.
    The left is anything but energized, in fact they are completely deflated with no idea which way they should go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    This is funny,



    The left is anything but energized, in fact they are completely deflated with no idea which way they should go.
    The far left is going to hate anyone center left. Which is going to be hard to get indies or NeverTrumpers on board. People in rural places don't want a progressive hence why bluedogs exist. As for Cuomo, his biggest worry will be the NRA, he put in massive gun control and that will scare people away in states like WI, IA, FL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    The far left is going to hate anyone center left. Which is going to be hard to get indies or NeverTrumpers on board. People in rural places don't want a progressive hence why bluedogs exist. As for Cuomo, his biggest worry will be the NRA, he put in massive gun control and that will scare people away in states like WI, IA, FL.
    Except blue dogs no longer exist in the national scene.

    The progressives ran them out of the party.

    Obama did more harm to the democratic party in this regard than anyone in recent history and the funny thing is that most people don't even recognize it.

    Taking the democratic so far left is what has cost them so many seats the last 8 years or so and its not going to change until they come back to center but now they are so firmly rooted in their beliefs I just don't see that happening until they lose even more power.

    It will take that I think to make them realize that they are on the wrong path.

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    Wouldn't that be Cuomo v Pence?

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    Trump will not win the RNC nomination. If Trump wins nomination...the GOP is totally out of solutions.

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    You'd think that as unpopular and terrible as Trump is that this would be a slam dunk for Democrats. I would not be surprised if they found a way to screw it up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingbeast View Post
    Wouldn't that be Cuomo v Pence?
    I don't think Pence would win RNC nomination.

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