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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Replace what?



    Whether whatever references to dynamite factories and whatever the hell are "true" or not, they're utterly irrelevant.

    Every time an example of union coercion is brought up, we see these patently idiotic references to child labor, "dynamite factories," dying on the job, 18-hour workdays, and whatever other red herrings from a century ago or more union apologists can think up on the fly.



    The links in post #1 are all directly and exclusively about unions.



    What are you attempting to say?
    Decertification refers to the process where the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) allows employees to call for a special election to get rid of the union as their “exclusive representative.” It is important to remember that your company cannot help or assist you with decertifying a union.
    The employees you cited in the OP were having problems in the desertification process. That has nothing to do with the Union.

    Meaning decertification is not the Union's process.

    What ever problems the employees are having is with the NLRB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    The employees you cited in the OP were having problems in the desertification process. That has nothing to do with the Union.

    Meaning decertification is not the Union's process.

    What ever problems the employees are having is with the NLRB.
    You're hilarious. Decertification of unions has to do with unions. Unions have very much to do with decertification of unions. The difficulty employees experiencing attempting to exercise their rights to decertify or deauthorize unions has a great deal to do with things unions do to to undermine and interfere with employees' exercise of those rights to decertify/deauthorize. The National Labor Relations Board has everything to do with unions as well, considering there are thousands upon thousands upon thousands of NLRB decisions that involve unions.

    Your denial on this topic suggests extreme cognitive dissonance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The desperate extremes to which union apologists resort... equal parts amusing and disturbing.
    And all true and not a bit unusual. Unless you think that workers went to all the trouble to create unions for shits and giggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    I bet you would have loved working in the sweatshops. The ones with the locked exits and only one BR break allowed.

    Or the local dynamite factory that blew so many times that they would only hire blacks and Chinese because whites were too precious to be blown up since they had families and were pillars of the community etc etc.. Still didn't stop one of my great uncles from dying on the job.

    Yea, because there is no OSHA now... unions are a bloated, corrupt, leftover of an obsolete populist
    power structure from another age. Yes, at the time they played an invaluable role, but to decide an
    institution has the same relevance in perpetuity is retarded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The desperate extremes to which union apologists resort... equal parts amusing and disturbing.
    This happened when I was living in Reno. I saw the explosion on my way to work.

    http://www.csb.gov/assets/1/19/CSB_Sierra.pdf

    Four people were killed. The company didn't even care enough to send the bodies back to their families in Mexico.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blah View Post
    Yea, because there is no OSHA now... unions are a bloated, corrupt, leftover of an obsolete populist
    power structure from another age. Yes, at the time they played an invaluable role, but to decide an
    institution has the same relevance in perpetuity is retarded.
    Do you also goose step when you write this stuff?

    Too bad capitalism is still run by the same old corrupt greedy elitists generally with the same historical goals. The creators of fiduciary duty will never voluntarily change except when forced to change to, by we the people or the unions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Replace what?

    Whether whatever references to dynamite factories and whatever the hell are "true" or not, they're utterly irrelevant.

    Every time an example of union coercion is brought up, we see these patently idiotic references to child labor, "dynamite factories," dying on the job, 18-hour workdays, and whatever other red herrings from a century ago or more union apologists can think up on the fly.

    The links in post #1 are all directly and exclusively about unions.

    What are you attempting to say?
    The first explosion that I cited happened in 1998, but here is another explosion, and death at the same company a couple of years ago.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/1...-co-in-sparks/

    I don't think you're living in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    This happened when I was living in Reno. I saw the explosion on my way to work.

    http://www.csb.gov/assets/1/19/CSB_Sierra.pdf

    Four people were killed. The company didn't even care enough to send the bodies back to their families in Mexico.
    Have you ever noticed that unions were generally considered a positive good in the US until the last bastion of slave labor dried up when the Farm Workers Union was formed. Then opinions about employee unions started to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    The first explosion that I cited happened in 1998, but here is another explosion, and death at the same company a couple of years ago.

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/1...-co-in-sparks/

    I don't think you're living in the real world.
    He seems to be in favor of the stealing of a person's labor.

    BTW my GGrandfather was the foreman at the local dynamite co when it blew up, but he wasn't killed like his brother in law. He was forced to retire because he was white and later started a woodworking business
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    Do you also goose step when you write this stuff?

    Too bad capitalism is still run by the same old corrupt greedy elitists generally with the same historical goals. The creators of fiduciary duty will never voluntarily change except when forced to change to, by we the people or the unions.
    Pure propaganda... the people now have a fair, and benevolent government. We have minimum wage, regulated
    work hours, regulated work safety, regulated health care insurance, regulated equality in employment... and the
    list goes on forever...

    If you want to be a gangster-unionist thug, that's on you.


    The US government now does just about everything unions used to proclaim their empire was built on.
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