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    A good chief of staff willing to confront the boss can accomplish a lot. Read the NPR link above for some examples.
    A good Chief of Staff can do wonders in the White House and they do have to be a strong gatekeeper. You can't have 30 different advisers having direct access to the president, his head will be swimming. The CoS can filter out the nonsense. If Kelly can do that, it'll not only help Trump but the whole country.

    I'm hopeful, but not sure he can pull it off. My skepticism comes from the fact that for the "strong gatekeeper" concept to work, there has to be a high level of trust between the president and his chief of staff. That trust has to go both ways. I'm not sure how much trust Kelly has in the president. How much could he? I'm also relatively sure that Trump doesn't trust Kelly, not because of any personal reason, but because Trump doesn't trust anyone. Most dishonest people assume others are just as dishonest and eventually become suspicious of what they're doing. This can sometimes be good. It's why former shoplifters make some of the best loss prevention specialists. But once Trump starts thinking, or hearing from others, that Kelly is keeping things from him, it all falls apart.
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    Every management course or seminar talks about turn over. Turn over is a dark cloud that hangs over most leaders because if they have high turnover in their departments, they are considered, weak, ineffective, poor decision makers and incompetent. When I have been in leadership positions, turn over was part of my compensation package. Why are these business principles not applied to Trump? He was elected mostly because he is a competent business leader...and he can't even choose the right candidates or lead without turnover. The bare basics of leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Minotaur View Post
    Kelly has no power. Trump is a micro-manager.
    Trump is not a micro-manager in anything policy related. He's not that complex. He likes to create buzz. He doesn't write his own executive orders or legislation. He's an impulsive entertainer. And when things get complex, he tends to delegate the heavy lifting while he looks for bromides that the pit (Shakespearean theater reference) will find entertaining. He loves media and getting a reaction that moves the needle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    A good Chief of Staff can do wonders in the White House and they do have to be a strong gatekeeper. You can't have 30 different advisers having direct access to the president, his head will be swimming. The CoS can filter out the nonsense. If Kelly can do that, it'll not only help Trump but the whole country.

    I'm hopeful, but not sure he can pull it off. My skepticism comes from the fact that for the "strong gatekeeper" concept to work, there has to be a high level of trust between the president and his chief of staff. That trust has to go both ways. I'm not sure how much trust Kelly has in the president. How much could he? I'm also relatively sure that Trump doesn't trust Kelly, not because of any personal reason, but because Trump doesn't trust anyone. Most dishonest people assume others are just as dishonest and eventually become suspicious of what they're doing. This can sometimes be good. It's why former shoplifters make some of the best loss prevention specialists. But once Trump starts thinking, or hearing from others, that Kelly is keeping things from him, it all falls apart.
    Trump tends to trust family members far too much. But you may be right. I am hoping Kelly can bring some order because Trump is his own worst enemy in matters related to consensus building and we desperately need consensus building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Trump is not a micro-manager in anything policy related. He's not that complex. He likes to create buzz. He doesn't write his own executive orders or legislation. He's an impulsive entertainer. And when things get complex, he tends to delegate the heavy lifting while he looks for bromides that the pit (Shakespearean theater reference) will find entertaining. He loves media and getting a reaction that moves the needle.
    I don't know. Trump isn't a micro manager in the sense you mean. He doesn't do the mechanics of business or politics, he farms it out, that's true. But he IS a micro manager when it comes to the optics and appearance, and that does affect the mechanical part. He micro manages his people, but not their tasks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    Every management course or seminar talks about turn over. Turn over is a dark cloud that hangs over most leaders because if they have high turnover in their departments, they are considered, weak, ineffective, poor decision makers and incompetent. When I have been in leadership positions, turn over was part of my compensation package. Why are these business principles not applied to Trump? He was elected mostly because he is a competent business leader...and he can't even choose the right candidates or lead without turnover. The bare basics of leadership.
    Trump's never had to comply with those principles. He's never been a CEO. He runs a mom-and-pop lifestyle business. And he doesn't have a clue about leadership. He's scarcely competent at management. No corporation would put up with this Bozo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I don't know. Trump isn't a micro manager in the sense you mean. He doesn't do the mechanics of business or politics, he farms it out, that's true. But he IS a micro manager when it comes to the optics and appearance, and that does affect the mechanical part. He micro manages his people, but not their tasks.

    Astute observation. Add to this: he's got really bad taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    I don't know. Trump isn't a micro manager in the sense you mean. He doesn't do the mechanics of business or politics, he farms it out, that's true. But he IS a micro manager when it comes to the optics and appearance, and that does affect the mechanical part. He micro manages his people, but not their tasks.
    He appears to play with the optics, but changes his mind constantly (or seems to). I have some problem with using the word micro-manager and chaos in the same thought. Scaramucci and Kelly in the same fortnight says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davocrat View Post
    Trump's never had to comply with those principles. He's never been a CEO. He runs a mom-and-pop lifestyle business. And he doesn't have a clue about leadership. He's scarcely competent at management. No corporation would put up with this Bozo.
    Agree. He's been an autocrat of a closely held family entertainment business. How this relates to political office is beyond me.

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