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    Is california cracking up?

    .....Illegal immigration over the last 30 years, the exodus of millions of middle-class Californians, and huge wealth concentrated in the L.A. basin and Silicon Valley have turned the state into a medieval manor of knights and peasants, with ever fewer in between.

    The strapped middle class continues to flee bad schools, high taxes, rampant crime and poor state services. About one-third of the nation's welfare recipients reside in California. Approximately one-fifth of the state lives below the poverty line. More than a quarter of Californians were not born in the United States.

    Many of the state's wealthiest residents support high taxes, no-growth green policies and subsidies for the poor. They do so because they reside in apartheid neighborhoods and have the material and political wherewithal to become exempt from the consequences of their own utopian bromides
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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...up_134705.html


    This sounds suspiciously like much of South and Central America for a number of reasons. Either way the Democratic Party's vision of this country's future doesn't much appeal to me.

    What do you guys think? I'd love to hear from you.
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    California is booming, not sure what fantasyland you conservatives live in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    California is booming, not sure what fantasyland you conservatives live in
    Oops! There's a fly in the buttermilk, buddy.

    From my source...

    ...Yet California -- after raising its top income tax rate to 13.3 percent and receiving record revenues -- is still facing a budget deficit of more than $1 billion. There is a much more foreboding state crisis of unfunded liabilities and pension obligations of nearly $1 trillion....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    California is booming, not sure what fantasyland you conservatives live in
    Not sure why the left still believes this crap.

    Its not booming, its in a financial crisis.

    Americans are deserting it in droves while they suck up more illegals.

    Its turning into a third world nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Not sure why the left still believes this crap.

    Its not booming, its in a financial crisis.

    Americans are deserting it in droves while they suck up more illegals.

    Its turning into a third world nation.
    LOL Actually it would be nice to spend an hour on 80 without wall to wall traffic and trucks...... like in the good old days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Not sure why the left still believes this crap.

    Its not booming, its in a financial crisis.

    Americans are deserting it in droves while they suck up more illegals.

    Its turning into a third world nation.
    Hence my reference to South and Central America with a small upper class and the rest of the nation making up various semi-permanent underclasses. Not much of a model to emulate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Not sure why the left still believes this crap.

    Its not booming, its in a financial crisis.

    Americans are deserting it in droves while they suck up more illegals.

    Its turning into a third world nation.
    Because "the left" knows that states and the US gov aren't run like your typical household. Which is why California has the sixth largest economy in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    California is booming, not sure what fantasyland you conservatives live in
    Aren't some trying to secede or break into 2? Didn't I read they might get on the ballot next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    Oops! There's a fly in the buttermilk, buddy.

    From my source...

    ...Yet California -- after raising its top income tax rate to 13.3 percent and receiving record revenues -- is still facing a budget deficit of more than $1 billion. There is a much more foreboding state crisis of unfunded liabilities and pension obligations of nearly $1 trillion....
    LOL - did you know that Kansas also faces a deficit of 1.1 billion dollars?

    Are you as concerned about them as you are CA?

    And this is an op-ed which I stopped reading after this

    Many of the state's wealthiest residents support high taxes, no-growth green policies and subsidies for the poor. They do so because they reside in apartheid neighborhoods and have the material and political wherewithal to become exempt from the consequences of their own utopian bromides.

    Yeah, no bias there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Aren't some trying to secede or break into 2? Didn't I read they might get on the ballot next year?
    Stupid idea and unconstitutional.
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