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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Yeah, but still, listening to Rush is also a pretty good indicator a person is an idiot, too.
    How would you know that unless you have listened to him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    How would you know that unless you have listened to him?
    By listening to people who listen to him and surveying what percentage are idiots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    BTW, tons of other people DO sell BS products making BS claims.
    Here's some total horseshit from a well-known person:

    https://shop.goop.com/shop/collection/wellness
    Don't Put a Jade Egg in Your Vagina, Say Gynecologists - Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop Jade Egg - Health

    Holy fucking hell what a loon.

    I forgot the stickers:

    https://www.shopbodyvibes.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Because this is part of the larger discussion into which information outlets are actually credible or not... if there's a more suitable location, then move it there.
    LOL - really? All over "supplements"? And Infowars is NOT a creditable outlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post
    Just proving what is in the bottle doesn't prove that what people try to claim it does actually works. All those herbal supplements that claim is helps lose weight, cures the cold, etc are like that. Yeah, test will show it has whaqt it says it has in it, but no clinical trials were done to prove it works. That's where the snake oil comes from.

    I should add, I have no idea what the particular stuff he is selling is. Does it make claims that it can do certain things without any test to prove it? If so, its snakeoil
    The article itself in fact supports that it is snake oil.
    This is the argument that all supplements are snake oil.... in which case, Jones is simply tapping an available market.

    Plus, the placebo effect works even if you tell the person that they are taking the placebo, so, if people feel like it helps, then it's not a scam.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I am fairly certain that whatever product Jones is pushing is only there to get money for him.

    I doubt that Rush sleeps on all the mattresses he pushes.
    Well, yes... that's the entire purpose of capitalism. You do stuff in the hopes of making money from the efforts.

    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Just another way to bilk people out of their hard-earned money. Somebody like Alex Jones shouldn't be selling anything, because nobody should be listening to the shit he's spewing. Ever. If he wants to fleece the people who are stupid enough to listen to his shit and send him their money, why not? If not him, somebody else will do it. Maybe a prince from Uganda.
    Ok, the "he needs to be shut down" argument and not allowed to do business... should he walk around with a star on his jacket too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    I don't think anyone is accusing him of breaking the law. Just because an activity is legal, does that mean no one else should object to it?

    BTW, tons of other people DO sell BS products making BS claims.
    That was why I wanted to know what the argument was... which was why the article from the OP served to address one of the potential arguments; that "what is in the bottle is not what is on the label".

    The argument of the supplements not doing what is advertised is different, and would require different evidence...

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    ok, so with that info from you.. i tried googling some info on it.. and was straight led back to your article.. so that claim is false in iteself...



    So definitely in the OP article, BOTH topics HAVE been addressed.

    Verdict: He's a snake oil salesman, without looking any further as into your own OP.
    BTW - you're comparing zinc in a single ingredient pill vs a pill that has 5 ingredients, zinc being 1 of them in a quantity that gets sold as half the cost of the bottle.

    would be curious to see if the average zinc supplement would pass the same tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    LOL - really? All over "supplements"? And Infowars is NOT a creditable outlet.
    You are free to make that argument where others before you have failed.

    Further, by any standard you would set to make the case, CNN and others have been caught repeatedly doing the same or worse.... so, good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Ok, the "he needs to be shut down" argument and not allowed to do business... should he walk around with a star on his jacket too?
    What are you babbling about now? Did you try to quote too many posts at once and shit just got all jumbled up in your head again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    You are free to make that argument where others before you have failed.

    Further, by any standard you would set to make the case, CNN and others have been caught repeatedly doing the same or worse.... so, good luck.
    No, I'm good. I'm just laughing at the fact that there is an actual thread about the supplements Alex Jones peddles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    No, I'm good. I'm just laughing at the fact that there is an actual thread about the supplements Alex Jones peddles.
    We need a "Pick Your Battles" catalog thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    What are you babbling about now? Did you try to quote too many posts at once and shit just got all jumbled up in your head again?
    No, I quoted :

    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    Just another way to bilk people out of their hard-earned money. Somebody like Alex Jones shouldn't be selling anything, because nobody should be listening to the shit he's spewing. Ever. If he wants to fleece the people who are stupid enough to listen to his shit and send him their money, why not? If not him, somebody else will do it. Maybe a prince from Uganda.
    And noticed you argued that "somebody like Jones shouldn't be selling anything"... implying that you want to shut down his business.

    Nobody should listen to him, implying that you he should not be allowed his voice...

    So, I just wanted to see if you would go full nazi and push for him to put a star on his chest, you should know what that implies.

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