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    From Bman's link :Survival Sheild:



    Survival Shield



    So it's a scam.

    I rest my case, that was easy.
    What case? That the product had 120 mcp shy of what the label said?
    That the dose is higher than the RDA set by the FDA?

    You haven't made a case, you made a quote.

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    Super Male Vitality



    Labdoor suggests that there is no real research to show that many of Super Vitality's ingredients are effective. One ingredient — Tribulus terrestris — "seems to increase libido in rats" but only improves erectile disfunction "in one lone human study," according to Labdoor. And the lab notes that the serving size in both serums is "way too small for this combination of ingredients to be effective."

    Labdoor review snippet: "Both of these products are most likely safe, but ineffective."
    Snake Oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    What case? That the product had 120 mcp shy of what the label said?
    That the dose is higher than the RDA set by the FDA?

    You haven't made a case, you made a quote.
    Oh FFS! Read the bolded section and try to think.

    We get enough Iodine and we don't need this. He is selling shit we don't need=scam.

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    Anthroplex



    The Anthroplex label also claims that the ingredients in this formula would work "synergistically with the powerful Super Male Vitality formula in order to help restore your masculine foundation and stimulate vitality with its own blend of unique ingredients". Our research shows no evidence of this potential.
    False claim.

    The 4th herb, horny goat weed (also in Super Female Vitality) has not yet been found to be synergistic with any of the ingredients in either product. Moreover, Anthroplex claims 170 mcg of these 4 herbs combined, which, as we've discussed above is multitudes lower than any scientifically proven dosage for efficacy.
    So, Snake Oil

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    Child Ease



    Claimed ingredients:​ Chamomile Flower, Jujube Seed, Hawthorn Berry, Catnip Aerial Parts, Lemon Balm Aerial Parts, Long Pepper Fruit, Licorice Root, Amla Fruit, Magnesium Taurinate, Calcium Carbonate, Gotu Kola Aerial Parts, and Essential Oils of Anise Seed, Cassia Bark, and Clove Fruit


    Test results: "This product tested to be free of stimulants and depressants listed as drugs prohibited from athletic competition in WADA's annual Prohibited List. It also passed screenings for heavy metal contamination (arsenic, cadmium, lead, mercury)."

    Labdoor notes that, like the male and female vitality serums, Child Ease "has so many ingredients, they wouldn't be effective in a 1.25 mL serving size."

    The report also cautions the use of these ingredients in children, especially given the lab's suspicion that "Infowars may also be marketing this supplement as a way to treat autism or a substitute for vaccines." The lab notes that "these recommendations are unfounded and dangerous."

    Review snippet: "It also has ingredients that have never been studied for safety or efficacy in human research and as a consumer, you're supposed to blindly trust that it's okay for your kids."
    Don't trust a Scaremongering salesman. Need I go On? Most homeopathic remedies and supplements are designed to relieve one of money, not to improve health.
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    Joint Formula



    "Almost all of the listed ingredients are not supported in research for joint health."
    False claim.

    Caveman: "They're using fancy ingredient names for what are really simple ingredients."

    Lung Cleanse: "It's maybe like a spray liquid cough drop in your throat — temporarily effective, but not worth $50."

    DNA Force: "There's no way to definitively test 'DNA health', so having a claim of supporting DNA and/or mitochondrial function seems far-fetched."

    MYCO-ZX: "This product's ingredients are unsupported in research and there's very little guidance on safe dosing."

    Secret 12 B12: "There's nothing really 'secret' about this product's main ingredient."

    Winter Sun Vitamin D: "You could grab a bottle for around $10 and skip the 2X+ price markup from Infowars."

    Silver Bullet Colloidal Silver: This is DANGEROUS.

    Do I really need to go on? I'd rather watch an old Giallo film.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    I'M not comparing anything, the agency / lab cited in the article was. and i was not able to determine what EXACTLY they were comparing, the statement in the article was referring to Jones' product, lacking an impact based on the low content of zinc, vs. another one with an "impactful" amount of zinc.
    Fair enough, I had to do a touch of digging here, because I've never taken this supplement, or zinc. Etc..,

    So, typically, you get zinc capsules in 5-15 mg pills, with what Jones is selling at 1mg, so, clearly this supplement is not just about the zinc content but something with the other ingredients, or maybe the combination... I don't know, I definitely lack the expertise for that.

    But, the third party reviewer shows that people who buy it generally like it (4.6 out of 5 after 600+ reviewers) Not much more I can really say about that. Aside from it seeming like the folks at buzzfeed needed to find SOMETHINGS bad to write about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    But, the third party reviewer shows that people who buy it generally like it (4.6 out of 5 after 600+ reviewers) Not much more I can really say about that.
    P. T. Barnum has already said it.

    Aside from it seeming like the folks at buzzfeed needed to find SOMETHINGS bad to write about.
    Oh, sure, that must be it. The products couldn't be a scam, it's Buzzfeed's fault. And we are supposed to believe that without a scrap of evidence.

    Fucking hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blues63 View Post
    Oh FFS! Read the bolded section and try to think.

    We get enough Iodine and we don't need this. He is selling shit we don't need=scam.
    There we go, we have an argument... Let's take an applause break.

    *cheer to blues*

    I would argue that there apparently a need for it, if it's something of an alternative to viagra... I mean, you can risk the side effects by contributing to that 1-2 billion dollar a year drug, but it is an obvious opinion that it is ineffective.

    Also, if there's even a singular study that showed positive results, wouldn't that imply that this counts as evidence against your case?

    I can't speak personally. But again, the third party reviewer shows that the people who buy it must find that it works as advertised, or it wouldn't get as many positive reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    No, I quoted :



    And noticed you argued that "somebody like Jones shouldn't be selling anything"... implying that you want to shut down his business.

    Nobody should listen to him, implying that you he should not be allowed his voice...

    So, I just wanted to see if you would go full nazi and push for him to put a star on his chest, you should know what that implies.
    Oh, so you didn't get confused about what you were replying to. You just don't understand English.

    Maybe that's because you're from Canadia.

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