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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    So you keep screeching.




    So you keep screeching. You're screeching at a Straw Man, as I haven't mentioned Bunker C. Crude oil seeps out of the ground. Crude oil burns easily, exuding black smoke. Learn something about crude oil before we all die of old age.

    Does crude oil burn
    Bunker C is "CRUDE OIL" what a fool you are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Bunker C is "CRUDE OIL" what a fool you are!
    Exactly. I kept saying the caveman was burning crude oil, and you kept screaming that Bunker C can't burn. Crude oil can burn. It burns very well. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Yes, I see armies of maintenance men all over the world, and rubbish dumps full of rusting solar panels.
    Well, the future solar maintenance industry will be needed. And, it will give us JOBS. (That is, unless Drones/Robots can do the job. I think they will be "helpers" at most...still going to need a tech.)

    We already have rubbish dumps. On that front, we need to figure out how to better recycle what can be used again, and, how to "convert" all unsable rubbish to a more useful form. (Fertilizer, fillers, fuels, or degradable material, etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Greens like to say that solar panels are green, and this is a very political agenda nowadays, what with beatniks everywhere demanding we tear down power stations and start using solar and wind power.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

    Coal, oil, gas and uranium are all made by nature, in a perfectly “green” way. Trees, plants, microorganisms (zooplankton, algae etc) and dinosaurs die, and are turned into coal, oil and gas. Uranium was apparently formed in supernovas about 6.6 billion years ago, long before naughty humans came along.

    So all of these fuels are very, very green. Just as green as a metallic mint green Buick Skylark convertible.


    On the other hand, if you look at solar panels, they are the very opposite of ‘naturally made’, since they are created by putting together dozens of different pieces of aluminium, steel, copper, zink, plastic, glass, rubber and who knows what else, in factories all over the place, and installed on the roofs of buildings that are themselves made up of all kinds of things made out of who knows what, made in hundreds of different factories.

    The same can be said for wind power generators. Anything but green!

    Explain that, Greenies!
    I can explain... but I guess you'd refuse to understand. If your CONCEPT is that any STUFF that originated on this planet is " Green" then you don't get it and don't want to. Arsenic, Lead,Mercury...are natural elements, true but ain't GREEN.
    The TERM refer to ECOLOGICALLY recommended.

    Green Power... whether Solar,Wind, Hydro... will NOT burn a fuel and will not create chemical byproduct pollution. CHILDREN can tell you that much. Carbon Monoxide is a simple and natural chemical. It is dangerous. If you doubt that ..you can prove your point with a running car in a closed garage. Let us know how that goes.

    Nuclear Power would be "Green" but for the HAZARDOUS WASTE and the potential if something screws up ( Chernobyl?)

    COAL is on several levels very UNGREEN. The MINING process is at BEST messy,destructive,polluting and dangerous. It then is a bad polluter when burned. Ask any 8th grader.. they know that. Coal NOW is not " bang for the buck", so irregardless it's been rendered obsolete by fracked gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
    I can explain... but I guess you'd refuse to understand.
    Not at all – I’m all ears.

    Arsenic, Lead,Mercury...are natural elements, true but ain't GREEN.
    During the manufacturing of all the elements required to make, transport, deliver and install solar panels, arsenic, lead and mercury are only some of the elements used – just the tip of the iceberg. Thus solar panels ain’t GREEN, as you might say.

    Green Power... whether Solar,Wind, Hydro... will NOT burn a fuel and will not create chemical byproduct pollution.
    You bet they do. Thousands of factories burn plenty of fuels and produce plenty of chemical byproduct pollution in order to make your beloved solar panels and wind turbines.

    Carbon Monoxide is a simple and natural chemical. It is dangerous. If you doubt that ..you can prove your point with a running car in a closed garage. Let us know how that goes.
    Great advice to give, on a board that may be read by kids. If you think solar panels are made without carbon monoxide being created in great amounts, I’m truly sorry for you.

    Nuclear Power would be "Green" but for the HAZARDOUS WASTE and the potential if something screws up ( Chernobyl?)
    Nuclear power is the cleanest and safest power there is. Hippies will never understand that, so we have to wait for the last of them to be carted off to old people’s homes before we can finally start using it properly.

    COAL is on several levels very UNGREEN.
    No less green than solar panels or wind turbines.

    he MINING process is at BEST messy,destructive,polluting and dangerous.
    And without it you have no solar panels or wind turbines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    Do tell us about your background in science...
    Maybe he's Alex Jones' Science editor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Not at all – I’m all ears.

    During the manufacturing of all the elements required to make, transport, deliver and install solar panels, arsenic, lead and mercury are only some of the elements used – just the tip of the iceberg. Thus solar panels ain’t GREEN, as you might say.

    You bet they do. Thousands of factories burn plenty of fuels and produce plenty of chemical byproduct pollution in order to make your beloved solar panels and wind turbines.

    Great advice to give, on a board that may be read by kids. If you think solar panels are made without carbon monoxide being created in great amounts, I’m truly sorry for you.

    Nuclear power is the cleanest and safest power there is. Hippies will never understand that, so we have to wait for the last of them to be carted off to old people’s homes before we can finally start using it properly.

    No less green than solar panels or wind turbines.

    And without it you have no solar panels or wind turbines.
    Toxicity in the manufacture, and disposal of solar panels is the reason we need those goopy government environmental protection regulations, and enforcement.

    Public opinion on nuclear power was turning around, but then we had the nuclear power plant destroying tsunami in Japan. That kinda put the kibosh on plans for expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Public opinion on nuclear power was turning around, but then we had the nuclear power plant destroying tsunami in Japan. That kinda put the kibosh on plans for expansion.
    Was anyone killed? No. Meanwhile you ignore all the tens of thousands killed by coal mining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    Was anyone killed? No. Meanwhile you ignore all the tens of thousands killed by coal mining.
    Wrong again.

    Fukushima Disaster: Former Nuclear Power Plant Executives to Stand Trial for Deaths of Over 40 People

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    You're jumping the gun - the court case isn't over. Come back when a judge says they died as a result of the nuclear facility. Even then I will laugh at your toll of 40, which is nothing compared to the tens of thousands that died in coal mining accidents. I notice you never mention them at all.

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