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    When will the Left accept that Socialism was an illusion?

    On another thread someone said that that the Soviet Union was not socialist. I looked up ‘USSR’ in various online resources to show that indeed, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was indeed socialist.

    "The economic foundation of the U.S.S.R. was “Socialist ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange,” and the economy of the entire country was controlled by a series of five-year plans that set targets for all forms of production."

    If you look at Encyclopaedia Britannica, under the definition of USSR, it gives a three page definition. At the end of the third page in the last summarizing paragraph, it concludes by saying:

    Economic failure was the key reason for the U.S.S.R.’s collapse. The socialist alternative to the market economy turned out to be an illusion.”

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Sov...m-1953-to-1991

    The question is, when are the Left going to admit that it was an illusion and give up? It’s been 26 years for fuck’s sake. How long are they going to continue living in La La Land?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    On another thread someone said that that the Soviet Union was not socialist. I looked up ‘USSR’ in various online resources to show that indeed, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was indeed socialist.

    "The economic foundation of the U.S.S.R. was “Socialist ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange,” and the economy of the entire country was controlled by a series of five-year plans that set targets for all forms of production."

    If you look at Encyclopaedia Britannica, under the definition of USSR, it gives a three page definition. At the end of the third page in the last summarizing paragraph, it concludes by saying:

    Economic failure was the key reason for the U.S.S.R.’s collapse. The socialist alternative to the market economy turned out to be an illusion.”

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Sov...m-1953-to-1991

    The question is, when are the Left going to admit that it was an illusion and give up? It’s been 26 years for fuck’s sake. How long are they going to continue living in La La Land?

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    Wait, you are saying the Soviets weren't communist, practiced socialism instead, and that socialism is an illusion.

    The Soviets didn't even exist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    On another thread someone said that that the Soviet Union was not socialist. I looked up ‘USSR’ in various online resources to show that indeed, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was indeed socialist.

    "The economic foundation of the U.S.S.R. was “Socialist ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange,” and the economy of the entire country was controlled by a series of five-year plans that set targets for all forms of production."

    If you look at Encyclopaedia Britannica, under the definition of USSR, it gives a three page definition. At the end of the third page in the last summarizing paragraph, it concludes by saying:

    Economic failure was the key reason for the U.S.S.R.’s collapse. The socialist alternative to the market economy turned out to be an illusion.”

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Sov...m-1953-to-1991

    The question is, when are the Left going to admit that it was an illusion and give up? It’s been 26 years for fuck’s sake. How long are they going to continue living in La La Land?

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    why are you equating what one person said to "the left"?
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    And many righties are now claiming that socialists are Nazis. So I guess those guys carrying torches, dressed in Nazi paraphernalia and chanting Heil tRump, Blood and Soil, and the Jews will not replace us are figments of everyone's imagination.

    But quite the metaphysical breakthrough, imaginary things being recorded so clearly on video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    why are you equating what one person said to "the left"?
    Good point. I'll pay that.

    On the other hand, I do hear many Lefties denying the Soviets were socialists. They don't understand that the goal of socialism is to lead to communism, but it's all six of one and half a dozen of the other. The fact is, whether or not they were communists, that they were a Socialist State. A thing can be more than one thing. For instance, a democracy can also be a capitalist economy. Democratic AND capitalist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RNG View Post
    And many righties are now claiming that socialists are Nazis.
    In my case I merely point out that National Socialists (Nazis) were socialists. As for socialists generally, they come in many different flavors, colors and types. Not many are National Socialists, but all will evolve into something similar, given time and enough power.

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    Is the EU's Democratic Socialism an illusion as well?
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    When will the Left accept that Socialism was an illusion?
    Our military is a closed Socialist society...are they an illusion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Larrikin View Post
    On another thread someone said that that the Soviet Union was not socialist. I looked up ‘USSR’ in various online resources to show that indeed, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was indeed socialist.

    "The economic foundation of the U.S.S.R. was “Socialist ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange,” and the economy of the entire country was controlled by a series of five-year plans that set targets for all forms of production."

    If you look at Encyclopaedia Britannica, under the definition of USSR, it gives a three page definition. At the end of the third page in the last summarizing paragraph, it concludes by saying:

    Economic failure was the key reason for the U.S.S.R.’s collapse. The socialist alternative to the market economy turned out to be an illusion.”

    https://www.britannica.com/place/Sov...m-1953-to-1991

    The question is, when are the Left going to admit that it was an illusion and give up? It’s been 26 years for fuck’s sake. How long are they going to continue living in La La Land?

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    Right about the same time as our nation stops building public roads, public schools, publicly funded police forces, and publicly funded firehouses.

    More importantly when are you going to stop talking about this mythical "Left", as if every single person who is not a conservative believes, and behaves exactly the same way?

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