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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    This is why we are asking Rasselas. Who decided God was he! Men?
    Seriously, you should have seen the looks when the Pastor asked, " How do you picture God?" Did you ever think about it?
    Surah 4:11 God instructs you concerning your children [i.e., their portions of inheritance]: for the male, what is equal to the share of two females.

    Surah 4:117. They call upon instead of Him none but female [deities], and they [actually] call upon none but a rebellious Satan,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Who Could It Be Wow "

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    That was written by men! No proof.

    What does God look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    That was written by men! No proof.

    What does God look like?
    A starving child begging for food somewhere in the world. A victim of a natural disaster clinging to a piece of something that floats waiting to be rescued. Someone struggling to breath one last time before losing to death. We see God every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    A starving child begging for food somewhere in the world. A victim of a natural disaster clinging to a piece of something that floats waiting to be rescued. Someone struggling to breath one last time before losing to death. We see God every day.
    A beggar at your door?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    A beggar at your door?
    Exactly. It always amazes me that a great number of people believe God will have grand vestments sitting on a golden throne. God is expected to have all the great power of official gov't authority if on this earth? Why? If God presented that way to them why would people expect anything less for themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    Exactly. It always amazes me that a great number of people believe God will have grand vestments sitting on a golden throne. God is expected to have all the great power of official gov't authority if on this earth? Why? If God presented that way to them why would people expect anything less for themselves?
    This is why our young Pastor asked the question. I have been thinking about it all week. That is why I brought it on the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    That was written by men! No proof.
    What does God look like?
    If you believe my noting citations from the qurayn was suggested as an answer to your question , rather than it being a mockery of the alt-left and its contradictory advocacy for fictional ishmaelism while also embracing feminism , you are missing something ,

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    That's the point of debate. Most people do not understand what they read or worse they pretend they read something by using Google to appear informed. To me it is obvious why Plato went mad. He thought he deserved to become a demigod but he made enemies with those who had the power to vote him in.

    Greek history is a lot more complicated than what Google can add to a debate.
    How about providing some evidence that Plato "went mad." How could anyone tell? What does "mad" mean and who said that? Certainly not Plato himself.

    Sorry, chaos, but unless you can provide SOME source for your claims, I think you were taught this by someone who was full of shit, 40 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk-Eye View Post
    " Seeing What They Want To Sea "

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    If you believe my noting citations from the qurayn was suggested as an answer to your question , rather than it being a mockery of the alt-left and its contradictory advocacy for fictional ishmaelism while also embracing feminism , you are missing something ,
    I could care less what you think. You simply posted what some one else said.

    Our Pastor asked the question to make us think for ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    I could care less what you think. You simply posted what some one else said.
    Our Pastor asked the question to make us think for ourselves.
    Okay then , you are marked down as caring less about some half baked opinion that someone else ( aka mu ham mad ) said , because of cognitive dissonance .

    Maybe you could ask the resident perceiver where and what an " outward male light " is supposed to mean in the context of the other male and female attributes of the " divine " and why " it " was not sufficient in genesis .

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sefirot
    The first sefirah (Keter) describes the Divine superconscious Will that is beyond conscious intellect. The next three sefirot (Chochmah, Binah and Da'at) describe three levels of conscious Divine Intellect. The seven subsequent sefirot (Chesed, Gevurah, Tiferet, Netzach, Hod, Yesod and Malchut) describe the primary and secondary conscious Divine Emotions. Two sefirot (Binah and Malchut) are feminine, as the female principle in Kabbalah describes a vessel that receives the outward male light, then inwardly nurtures and gives birth to lower sefirot. Corresponding to this is the Female Divine Presence (Hebrew: שְׁכִינָה‎‎, Shekhinah). Kabbalah sees the human soul as mirroring the Divine (after Genesis 1:27, "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him, male and female He created them"), and more widely, all creations as reflections of their life source in the sefirot. Therefore, the sefirot also describe the spiritual life of man, and constitute the conceptual paradigm in Kabbalah for understanding everything. This relationship between the soul of man and the Divine, gives Kabbalah one of its two central metaphors in describing Divinity, alongside the other Ohr (light) metaphor. However, Kabbalah repeatedly stresses the need to avoid all corporeal interpretation. Through this, the sefirot are related to the structure of the body and are reformed into partzufim (personas). Underlying the structural purpose of each sefirah is a hidden motivational force which is understood best by comparison with a corresponding psychological state in human spiritual experience.[1]

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