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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Less than that, really, since G-d in Judaism is neither male or female. That construction came much later.
    There were northern clans that had a monotheist male god before Judaism but the archaeology is questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius the God View Post
    If you are interested in the evolution of worship, try Vardis Fishers excellent series called "The testament of man". I strongly recommend them to anyone interested in the development of religion over thousands of years. You can find it on Amazon in paper back, it was his masterpiece.
    I can't read novels, especially 70 year old novels. The establishment is just now starting to accept evidence proves most of what we were taught is wrong.

    I'm a big fan of John Anthony West. He is mostly responsible for bringing the facts about worship to the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    I did not say anything like that. The use in the Torah of the masculine pronoun does not render G-d a man. At least, not as Jews read it, precisely because it would make no sense. I think it might be more accurate to say, however, that men reading parts of the Bible may render G-d as a man, but that is not the same thing.
    No,men wrote the Bible in the first place. They made God a man. You can not get away from that fact. They even wrote about God creating woman from a rib. There is so much myth in the OT,it is no wonder people are rejecting religion as it is taught. I am more likely to believe Science.

    I am fast becoming a Deist as I dwell and research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    No,men wrote the Bible in the first place. They made God a man. You can not get away from that fact. They even wrote about God creating woman from a rib. There is so much myth in the OT,it is no wonder people are rejecting religion as it is taught. I am more likely to believe Science.

    I am fast becoming a Deist as I dwell and research.
    Yes, God saw that Adam was lonely and that he needed a mate. So God called down to Adam and told him--Adam, I am going to put you to sleep, take your right arm and make you the perfect mate. Adam replied: God, I genuinely appreciate that, but I am going to need my right arm, so what can I get for a rib.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    No,men wrote the Bible in the first place. They made G-d a man. You can not get away from that fact.
    There is no "fact" to get away from. The use of the male pronoun does not render G-d a "man," any more than use of the female pronoun would have rendered G-d a "woman." It had to be one pronoun or the other, and in Judaism G-d has no sex or gender no matter what pronoun is used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    That is a Leftist debate tactic: when an opposing view is presented, attack. Personal attack if possible.
    You're completely biased and full of shit. Try some fucking honesty for once and take a look around at your buddies' attacks and stupidass crap EVERY DAMN DAY in almost every thread. You will never admit to it though. What the fuck did YOU just do? Another of your swoop and poops, that's what you did. Your puppeteer has you by the short ones. I have zero tolerance for your drive by bridge crossings. You wandered off the path that leads to all the "I Hate XYZ" threads. Need a map to tromp your way back?

    How many brown-nose brownie points did you get for this one?

    Pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    That is a Leftist debate tactic: when an opposing view is presented, attack. Personal attack if possible.
    Hypocrite much?

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