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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    I agree that marginalizing moderation is a bad thing, but considering you are a big fan of Bernie, your comment seems...inconsistent...to me.

    It's also strange to me that you seem to support moderate Republicans, but you bash moderate Democrats all the time. Most of what you don't like about Clinton, for example, appears to be areas where she agrees with or gains support from traditionally Republican power centers.
    Watch what they do, not what they say.

    It's the only way to find the actual progressives and real moderates amongst the corporate whores.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    Watch what they do, not what they say.

    It's the only way to find the actual progressives and real moderates amongst the corporate whores.
    When you are a liberal, being ALSO a corporate whore is what MAKES you a moderate. Where's the compromise otherwise?

    I don't believe that markets are magic that can solve any problem--they are far too painful for many of our fellow citizens too much of the time. But I do think that markets are the base from which everything else should spring. There are plenty of people on the left who don't believe markets accomplish much at all and would undermine rather than support them. When Bernie talks about the role of markets in private endeavors, he mumbles. That's never sat well with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    When you are a liberal, being ALSO a corporate whore is what MAKES you a moderate. Where's the compromise otherwise?

    I don't believe that markets are magic that can solve any problem--they are far too painful for many of our fellow citizens too much of the time. But I do think that markets are the base from which everything else should spring. There are plenty of people on the left who don't believe markets accomplish much at all and would undermine rather than support them. When Bernie talks about the role of markets in private endeavors, he mumbles. That's never sat well with me.
    Do you plan these posts to annoy me? No, liberals do not have some shared plan to destroy the stock market.

    The 0.01% do, though. That would actually be a terrific way to sort the wheat from the chaff. There hasn't been adequate policing of the financial sector since Reagan, and it is eventually going to kill Investor confidence.

    So, a politician who has supported adequate regulation of financial dealings (say, Mike DeWine who is AG of Ohio) is probably not a corporate whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief View Post
    A rare Republican moderate decides to walk away from Congress



    I think this is the biggest challenge the GOP has ever gone through.
    That's great news. Good riddance to another flaky RINO. Hopefully a loyal conservative will replace him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius the God View Post
    The sad thing is that these socalled moderates are still right of where the party was just 20 years ago. The radicalization of the GOP began with Rush, Newt made it into a war and then right wing media made our politics into a profit center. Unfortunately, the product of this madness is the current GOP. I remain deeply incensed at the namby pamby response by liberals and Democrats to this evolution, our leaders kept playing nice when they could have stopped this cold long ago.
    I weep when I look at the Clintons. How could either one be in the same party as FDR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Predicting the imminent death of the opposition party has been a bi-annual practice for the last couple of decades.

    Both parties are pretty fucked up at the moment. But they tend to make adjustments and accommodations to assure their continued existence.


    Not unlike cockroaches.....
    Fucks I give about either party surviving: 0.

    Fucks I give about you and your grandchildren surviving; lots!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueneck View Post
    So what's the difference between a moderate Republican and a moderate Democrat?
    A Penny..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    In the Trump administration, it's rather hard to identify who is a "moderate" Republican. They ALL are, as best I can tell, compared to trump.
    It’s certainly easy to identify the whining RINOs though. McCain, Flake, Dent, Ryan, Graham, Collins are some.

    I suspect there will be a mass exodus by GOP Congresspeople, "retiring" rather than be humiliated at the polls next fall.
    Excellent. The GOP definitely needs to have a transfusion of real conservatives.

    Whatever your political affiliations, it is not good that we are thinning the herd in Congress by eliminating some of the more experienced, grown up, moderate people there today. That serves no one interests.
    Ha ha. LOL. Experienced, grown up moderates? RINOs are mostly liberals in disguise. They are the last thing the GOP needs. Get ‘em out, as Trump would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon View Post
    A Penny..
    *Winks*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    They seem to be doing fine to me.

    They keep winning seats.

    Its the democrats that can't get any moderates which is the problem.
    Again, winning is not important UNLESS they serve our interests once in office.

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