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    Here what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Here what?
    Read the actual text of the bill.

    Hopefully you have the intelligence to understand it.

    Its all there for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Read the actual text of the bill.

    Hopefully you have the intelligence to understand it.

    Its all there for you.
    Okay. Point to the part where it says the president can't have a conflict of interest because he's the president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Okay. Point to the part where it says the president can't have a conflict of interest because he's the president.
    Read the text and you will see it.

    I'm not going to hold your hand here.

    Be a grown up.

    I gave you the information so disseminate it.

    Its not rocket science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Read the text and you will see it.

    I'm not going to hold your hand here.

    Be a grown up.

    I gave you the information so disseminate it.

    Its not rocket science.
    I don't see it.

    Point it out for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    I don't see it.

    Point it out for me.
    If you don't see it then me pointing it out won't help you.

    Obviously you don't understand how to read legislation.

    Go google it, you have all the information, maybe somewhere there is an author that explains it in simple terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    If you don't see it then me pointing it out won't help you.

    Obviously you don't understand how to read legislation.

    Go google it, you have all the information, maybe somewhere there is an author that explains it in simple terms.
    Well, it is your point that it is in the law. Simply point it out and have your way with me.

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    (a)Except as permitted by subsection (b) hereof, whoever, being an officer or employee of the executive branch of the United States Government, or of any independent agency of the United States, a Federal Reserve bank director, officer, or employee, or an officer or employee of the District of Columbia, including a special Government employee, participates personally and substantially as a Government officer or employee, through decision, approval, disapproval, recommendation, the rendering of advice, investigation, or otherwise, in a judicial or other proceeding, application, request for a ruling or other determination, contract, claim, controversy, charge, accusation, arrest, or other particular matter in which, to his knowledge, he, his spouse, minor child, general partner, organization in which he is serving as officer, director, trustee, general partner or employee, or any person or organization with whom he is negotiating or has any arrangement concerning prospective employment, has a financial interest—
    Shall be subject to the penalties set forth in section 216 of this title.
    (b)Subsection (a) shall not apply—
    (1)if the officer or employee first advises the Government official responsible for appointment to his or her position of the nature and circumstances of the judicial or other proceeding, application, request for a ruling or other determination, contract, claim, controversy, charge, accusation, arrest, or other particular matter and makes full disclosure of the financial interest and receives in advance a written determination made by such official that the interest is not so substantial as to be deemed likely to affect the integrity of the services which the Government may expect from such officer or employee;
    (2)if, by regulation issued by the Director of the Office of Government Ethics, applicable to all or a portion of all officers and employees covered by this section, and published in the Federal Register, the financial interest has been exempted from the requirements of subsection (a) as being too remote or too inconsequential to affect the integrity of the services of the Government officers or employees to which such regulation applies;
    (3)in the case of a special Government employee serving on an advisory committee within the meaning of the Federal Advisory Committee Act (including an individual being considered for an appointment to such a position), the official responsible for the employee’s appointment, after review of the financial disclosure report filed by the individual pursuant to the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, certifies in writing that the need for the individual’s services outweighs the potential for a conflict of interest created by the financial interest involved; or
    (4)if the financial interest that would be affected by the particular matter involved is that resulting solely from the interest of the officer or employee, or his or her spouse or minor child, in birthrights—
    (A)in an Indian tribe, band, nation, or other organized group or community, including any Alaska Native village corporation as defined in or established pursuant to the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act, which is recognized as eligible for the special programs and services provided by the United States to Indians because of their status as Indians,
    (B)in an Indian allotment the title to which is held in trust by the United States or which is inalienable by the allottee without the consent of the United States, or
    (C)in an Indian claims fund held in trust or administered by the United States,
    if the particular matter does not involve the Indian allotment or claims fund or the Indian tribe, band, nation, organized group or community, or Alaska Native village corporation as a specific party or parties.
    (c)
    (1)For the purpose of paragraph (1) of subsection (b), in the case of class A and B directors of Federal Reserve banks, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System shall be deemed to be the Government official responsible for appointment.
    (2)The potential availability of an exemption under any particular paragraph of subsection (b) does not preclude an exemption being granted pursuant to another paragraph of subsection (b).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    (a)Except as permitted by subsection (b) hereof, whoever, being an officer or employee of the executive branch of the United States Government, or of any independent agency of the United States, a Federal Reserve bank director, officer, or employee, or an officer or employee of the District of Columbia, including a special Government employee, participates personally and substantially as a Government officer or employee, through decision, approval, disapproval, recommendation, the rendering of advice, investigation, or otherwise, in a judicial or other proceeding, application, request for a ruling or other determination, contract, claim, controversy, charge, accusation, arrest, or other particular matter in which, to his knowledge, he, his spouse, minor child, general partner, organization in which he is serving as officer, director, trustee, general partner or employee, or any person or organization with whom he is negotiating or has any arrangement concerning prospective employment, has a financial interest—
    Shall be subject to the penalties set forth in section 216 of this title.
    (b)Subsection (a) shall not apply—
    (1)if the officer or employee first advises the Government official responsible for appointment to his or her position of the nature and circumstances of the judicial or other proceeding, application, request for a ruling or other determination, contract, claim, controversy, charge, accusation, arrest, or other particular matter and makes full disclosure of the financial interest and receives in advance a written determination made by such official that the interest is not so substantial as to be deemed likely to affect the integrity of the services which the Government may expect from such officer or employee;
    (2)if, by regulation issued by the Director of the Office of Government Ethics, applicable to all or a portion of all officers and employees covered by this section, and published in the Federal Register, the financial interest has been exempted from the requirements of subsection (a) as being too remote or too inconsequential to affect the integrity of the services of the Government officers or employees to which such regulation applies;
    (3)in the case of a special Government employee serving on an advisory committee within the meaning of the Federal Advisory Committee Act (including an individual being considered for an appointment to such a position), the official responsible for the employee’s appointment, after review of the financial disclosure report filed by the individual pursuant to the Ethics in Government Act of 1978, certifies in writing that the need for the individual’s services outweighs the potential for a conflict of interest created by the financial interest involved; or
    (4)if the financial interest that would be affected by the particular matter involved is that resulting solely from the interest of the officer or employee, or his or her spouse or minor child, in birthrights—
    (A)in an Indian tribe, band, nation, or other organized group or community, including any Alaska Native village corporation as defined in or established pursuant to the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act, which is recognized as eligible for the special programs and services provided by the United States to Indians because of their status as Indians,
    (B)in an Indian allotment the title to which is held in trust by the United States or which is inalienable by the allottee without the consent of the United States, or
    (C)in an Indian claims fund held in trust or administered by the United States,
    if the particular matter does not involve the Indian allotment or claims fund or the Indian tribe, band, nation, organized group or community, or Alaska Native village corporation as a specific party or parties.
    (c)
    (1)For the purpose of paragraph (1) of subsection (b), in the case of class A and B directors of Federal Reserve banks, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System shall be deemed to be the Government official responsible for appointment.
    (2)The potential availability of an exemption under any particular paragraph of subsection (b) does not preclude an exemption being granted pursuant to another paragraph of subsection (b).
    What?

    Are you joking?

    That does not say the president cannot have conflicts due to being the president. Were you making it up all along?

    Silly Spooky. here I thought you may actually have a point. Okay, not really, but I wanted to watch you try and ultimately fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Okay. Point to the part where it says the president can't have a conflict of interest because he's the president.
    Spookycolt won't show you what you ask for because it isn't in the section of law he quoted, at least I couldn't find it. Perhaps if we ask nicely Spookycolt will quote the text that supports his claim.

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