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    Betsy DeVos is right about campus sexual assault

    Last Thursday, Education Secretary Betsy DeVos made a speech announcing the reversal of Obama-era policies on campus sexual assault under Title IX, the federal law on gender equity in education. This was met with a wave of outrage on social media and in progressive publications. There were angry accusations that the move would harm women and protect rapists; a #StopBetsy hashtag sprang up on Twitter.

    Why the fury? DeVos offered a full-throated defense of due process, asserting that "every survivor of sexual misconduct must be taken seriously" but "every student accused of sexual misconduct must know that guilt is not predetermined."It is the right message, whatever one thinks of the messenger.


    DeVos had harsh words for Barack Obama's administration, charging that it "weaponized the [Department of Education] Office for Civil Rights to work against schools and against students." That was a reference to the administration's 2011 "Dear Colleague" letter to college presidents, which issued directives on Title IX enforcement later backed by a threat to withhold federal funds from schools found noncompliant.
    Betsy DeVos is right about campus sexual assault (opinion) - CNN

    Someone shouldn't have fewer due process rights because they're a college student.
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    Yep it was a good call.

    Now that Trump is reversing all this stuff we can finally see the things Obama snuck in there and just how horrible he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Betsy DeVos is right about campus sexual assault (opinion) - CNN

    Someone shouldn't have fewer due process rights because they're a college student.
    Read this before you decide:

    https://www.rainn.org/statistics/campus-sexual-violence


    And remember Brock Turner? let out after three months for good behaviour, total sentence 6 months,

    BUT,,,,

    FACT CHECK: Did a Criminology Textbook Use Brock Turner as an Example?

    Just remember, the government can't do shit right anyway,,,, but we, (the mothers) can, and we will.

    So here's to using methods OUTSIDE of the law, to combat rape on campus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macduff View Post
    Betsy DeVos is right about campus sexual assault (opinion) - CNN

    Someone shouldn't have fewer due process rights because they're a college student.
    Despite what her detractors claim the title IX dear colleague letter was a gross violation of basic rights of the accused. It was nothing less than establishing a witch hunts on college campuses to make feminazis happy.

    The tribunals established by this letter allowed no evidence to be presented by the accused. They did not allow the accused to face the accuser or even hear the details of the accusation.

    The accused were often compelled to write statements about their version of events. These written statements could then be subpoenaed by the police if they pursued an investigation which of course merely results in an end run around Miranda rights.

    Finally although the colleges had latitude in what punishments they could prescribe they typically expelled the accused permanently and without any appeal or repeal. This ruins the lives of people especially scholarship students.

    We know for a fact that over 100 innocent men have had their lives destroyed by this ridiculous law which was nothing less than a monstrous assault by the pig Obama on basic human rights.

    Whatever else good or bad or meaningless trump may do his choice in Devos has proven to be one thing he did right for this nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACE View Post
    Read this before you decide:

    https://www.rainn.org/statistics/campus-sexual-violence


    And remember Brock Turner? let out after three months for good behaviour, total sentence 6 months,

    BUT,,,,

    FACT CHECK: Did a Criminology Textbook Use Brock Turner as an Example?

    Just remember, the government can't do shit right anyway,,,, but we, (the mothers) can, and we will.

    So here's to using methods OUTSIDE of the law, to combat rape on campus.
    It is irrelevant how many rapes occur because it is not a justifiable or moral excuse to destroy due process for ANYONE. The same would be true for murder if it were increasing.

    The fact i however the claims of RAINN have been long debunked by the FBI. As it turns out the 1 in 5 stat is like all stats made up from thin air and a fallacy.

    Women off campus are in fact at a much higher greater risk of rape than college students and like all violent crimes rape has been in decline for some time now. The feminazi claim of a rape epidemic is proven to be a lie.

    One anecdotal example or even many anecdotal examples is also not an argument.

    Rape is a violent and heinous crime which belong under the jurisdiction of the police and courts. Not a college tribunal which is biased and unqualified to establish justice.

    Your post is a total massive fail
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    The Due Process Clauses (Amends. V and XIV) require that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law. There is the right to counsel in Amends. V and VI. There is the protection against unreasonable searches and seizures in Amend. IV. There is no reason to deprive anyone of these and other rights in any circumstance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soupnazi View Post
    It is irrelevant how many rapes occur because it is not a justifiable or moral excuse to destroy due process for ANYONE. The same would be true for murder if it were increasing.

    The fact i however the claims of RAINN have been long debunked by the FBI. As it turns out the 1 in 5 stat is like all stats made up from thin air and a fallacy.

    Women off campus are in fact at a much higher greater risk of rape than college students and like all violent crimes rape has been in decline for some time now. The feminazi claim of a rape epidemic is proven to be a lie.

    One anecdotal example or even many anecdotal examples is also not an argument.

    Rape is a violent and heinous crime which belong under the jurisdiction of the police and courts. Not a college tribunal which is biased and unqualified to establish justice.

    Your post is a total massive fail
    Using the word "femiinazi is a total massive fail.

    WTH is wrong with you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Using the word "femiinazi is a total massive fail.

    WTH is wrong with you?
    No it is quite accurate in describing modern feminists.

    No more a fail than using the term pussy grabber

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    Quote Originally Posted by soupnazi View Post
    No it is quite accurate in describing modern feminists.

    No more a fail than using the term pussy grabber
    It's a stupid meaningless derogatory piece of shit childishness. On a good day.

    Pussy grabber is direct and to the point. No more than the PGIC claimed or deserves.
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