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    Quote Originally Posted by Idiocracat View Post
    It doesn't take a one on one session to determine a person is sociopathic.
    Trump is an open book, and confesses his sickness through his actions and words on a daily.

    Hell, you came to this conclusion yourself:



    Did you have so much as a single conversational session with the man to come to that conclusion?
    Psychology was my minor in school.
    He's sociopath 101.
    Not even a little the same. Demonstrate for me where, in my post, I made any mental evaluation of Trump. I spoke to his behaviours. I did not presume to diagnose any sort of mental condition based on those behaviours. That's the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzareta View Post
    So you stalk him around the forum reading his every post?

    Or are you saying you make note of every single time psychiatric generalizations are made and when he fails to chastise them? My My, you are one busybody poster
    No on all fronts. I simply stated what I have witnessed on this board. He is free to prove me wrong by bringing a post where he chastised a Dim for doing the same thing he describes in the OP.

    What part of that confused you?

    Derp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball View Post
    No on all fronts. I simply stated what I have witnessed on this board. He is free to prove me wrong by bringing a post where he chastised a Dim for doing the same thing he describes in the OP.

    What part of that confused you?

    Derp!
    Not confused at all inspite of your attempt at obfuscation.

    It's up to you to prove your assertions true. He doesn't need to make or not make your case for you. Now get busy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Not even a little the same. Demonstrate for me where, in my post, I made any mental evaluation of Trump. I spoke to his behaviours. I did not presume to diagnose any sort of mental condition based on those behaviours. That's the difference.
    Actual behaviors would be describing the specific behavior he exhibits. Such as "he tells me a provable lie every time we have a conversation" while describing the lie. "He does not make eye contact when we are talking about blah blah blah". "He has a a masky facial affect. Tries to change the subject when we are discussing certain topics. Keeps repeating himself and going back to a certain topic. Forgets what we were discussing, and starts talking about blah blah blah. Laughs when we discuss blah blah blah." With descriptions of body posture, Etc etc

    Using terms like fascist and totalitarian are really a form of diagnosis in that you take an assortment of behaviors and assign a name to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Now, before I even continue with my opening post, allow me to remind everyone that I absolutely despise Trump. I loathe him with the passion of a thousand burning suns. I think he is incompetent, unpresidential, self-serving, possibly criminal, definitely fascist, and absolutely totalitarian. That being said, I saw the following headline, and all I could think was "What the actual fuck!?!?"

    Harvard psychiatrist Lance Dodes: Donald Trump is a “sociopath” and “a very sick individual”

    I a not even going to bother quoting any of this ludicrous article. If any of you want to dig deeper into this garbage, you may feel free. What I want to know is, how does this, in any way, help? Do mendacious articles, and hysterical proclamations of this sort make us less polarised as a nation? Does it bring us any closer to restoring order to the Presidency? Does it reach Trump, and inform him in any meaningful manner?

    These constant stories of psychological professionals, who have never had so much as a single conversational session with the man, constantly making proclamations about his mental facilities is ridiculous, and really needs to stop. All it does is piss off Trump supporters, and confirm for them that "The Media" is just "out to get him".
    Fascist you say?

    Totalitarian you say?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Agree completely. Sometimes the best way to deal with someone is to let them burn themselves out. But now some in "The resistance" or whatever they call themselves, are going overboard to prove how awful he is. Its nutty and like you say just makes him tweet out stuff like "see I told you, the loony left or the violent left" as he says. Its also incredibly unprofessional and you just know that now that the bar has been set, future candidates and presidents will have this done to them as well by the opposition. It sometimes looks like "what can we do to make ourselves either just as bad or worse." Certainly didn't heed Michelle Obamas advice of "when they go low we go high." Crazy stuff.
    Loved watching the pink pussy hat marches as the women line up behind Linda Sarsour. A pro terrorist Sharia Law apologists using the foolish lemmings to promote her agenda. All in the name of "We hate Trump"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Kudos to you for calling them out for this BS.

    Its ok if you hate Trump, no one will blame you for that, we all have opinions but yes, the left is going hysterical over him. Giving him a psyche evaluation without even interviewing him is ludicrous but the left seems to eat it up.

    It takes away from legitimate issues the left has with Trump and makes them look foolish.
    If Hillary won the election, all of the negative comments about Trump would of been long forgotten. It was Trump's policies that got him the presidency. NOt his wild behavior. People put up with it
    to keep her out of the White House. With all of his flaws , she couldn't get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Now, before I even continue with my opening post, allow me to remind everyone that I absolutely despise Trump. I loathe him with the passion of a thousand burning suns. I think he is incompetent, unpresidential, self-serving, possibly criminal, definitely fascist, and absolutely totalitarian. That being said, I saw the following headline, and all I could think was "What the actual fuck!?!?"

    Harvard psychiatrist Lance Dodes: Donald Trump is a “sociopath” and “a very sick individual”

    I a not even going to bother quoting any of this ludicrous article. If any of you want to dig deeper into this garbage, you may feel free. What I want to know is, how does this, in any way, help? Do mendacious articles, and hysterical proclamations of this sort make us less polarised as a nation? Does it bring us any closer to restoring order to the Presidency? Does it reach Trump, and inform him in any meaningful manner?

    These constant stories of psychological professionals, who have never had so much as a single conversational session with the man, constantly making proclamations about his mental facilities is ridiculous, and really needs to stop. All it does is piss off Trump supporters, and confirm for them that "The Media" is just "out to get him".
    Kudos on this post. I prefer the good old days when people could disagree politically with each other without going overboard. In the old days no Harvard psychiatrist would dare make such assessments without first analyzing the person in detail, face to face, for a significant time. Even then he would be required by his own code of conduct to keep his views to himself and not broadcast them to the world. This guy makes a mockery of his profession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanStill View Post
    Personally I don't see it as that big a deal.
    It is a big deal. Most conservatives would disapprove, and many Democrats would too, but that’s Argumentum ad populum, so I’ll give you a better argument. Psychiatrists are TAUGHT not to do this, and why they should not do this, just as plastic surgeons are taught not to give ten year old girls fun bags. It is prostituting their profession to make assessments of a person without examining them, and frowned upon by their teachers. It is the fastest way to make people lose respect for their profession, since they turn themselves into fortune tellers and cheap gossip merchants when they do it.

    How closely does a Harvard professor need to "interview" the president when he regularly blurts out stream-of-conciousness snippets at 3am on Twitter?
    That’s a logical fallacy, since you chose to use the false descriptions ‘blurts out’ and ‘stream-of-concisouness’ [sic] and ‘snippets’, plus you are concluding that anyone who tweets at 3 am must be mad. Did you study at Harvard too? I guess so.

    1) Blurting is saying something suddenly and without careful consideration. I see no evidence Trump does that. I'll bet you have done that yourself many times in your life. Does that mean you’re insane?

    2) ‘Stream-of-consciousness’ is rambling on almost incoherently to oneself like James Joyce. Through your hate filter you see Trump this way – I do not. I see him as a very entertaining and educated speaker, and enjoy his banter and his wit. He is witty and smart, and a pleasure to listen to. So rather than describing his banter objectively, you choose to pour your partisan Kool-Aid all over it.

    3) ‘Snippets’. What the hell is a tweet if it’s not a snippet? Did you forget that most politicians in the world use Twitter to tweet their boring snippets every day? Including most, if not all, the ones you love? Do you describe theirs as ‘blurted out stream-of-consciousness snippets? No, they can say the stupidest things at any time, and it’s fine by you, probably because you never read them. And why don’t you ever read them? Because they’re BORING. Sad!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czernobog View Post
    Now, before I even continue with my opening post, allow me to remind everyone that I absolutely despise Trump. I loathe him with the passion of a thousand burning suns. I think he is incompetent, unpresidential, self-serving, possibly criminal, definitely fascist, and absolutely totalitarian. That being said, I saw the following headline, and all I could think was "What the actual fuck!?!?"

    Harvard psychiatrist Lance Dodes: Donald Trump is a “sociopath” and “a very sick individual”

    I a not even going to bother quoting any of this ludicrous article. If any of you want to dig deeper into this garbage, you may feel free. What I want to know is, how does this, in any way, help? Do mendacious articles, and hysterical proclamations of this sort make us less polarised as a nation? Does it bring us any closer to restoring order to the Presidency? Does it reach Trump, and inform him in any meaningful manner?

    These constant stories of psychological professionals, who have never had so much as a single conversational session with the man, constantly making proclamations about his mental facilities is ridiculous, and really needs to stop. All it does is piss off Trump supporters, and confirm for them that "The Media" is just "out to get him".
    Well you seem to be breaking from the liberal hate train and seeing things with some common sense.

    Good thing there aren't more people on the left like you or we may have to start worrying.

    The liberals running around like Chicken Little are more laughable than anything really.
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