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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    No, it's accurate. All things remaining equal under the current tax system, fully funding the left's holy grails of entitlements, Social Security and Single Payer, would require payroll taxes to increase to approximately 38%

    You have to remember that Single Payer would pick up the tab for a LIFETIME of medical care for 320+ million...not the 11 (men) to 16 (women) years that (deeply in the red) Medicare covers.
    That's bullshit. I'm sure you might be able to find some rightwing rag that may say it but even doubling or tripling your payroll deduction is not going to amount to 38%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    That's bullshit. I'm sure you might be able to find some rightwing rag that may say it but even doubling or tripling your payroll deduction is not going to amount to 38%
    Do the math yourself. You're so sciencey, it shouldn't be too much of a challenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    Yours is the bullshit. Tell me how everyone would have skin in the game.
    Does everyone have skin in the SS game? Does everyone pay a medicare tax out of every paycheck? Do the poor get to say they don't want to have SS deducted from their pay? No, they all pay it regardless of their pay and the only ones exempt from paying their share are the rich. that's not progressive, it's regressive. Double that medicare tax and the cost of ins goes away and you would be better off.

    No one but the right keeps insisting it would be free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatist View Post
    Does everyone have skin in the SS game? Does everyone pay a medicare tax out of every paycheck? Do the poor get to say they don't want to have SS deducted from their pay? No, they all pay it regardless of their pay and the only ones exempt from paying their share are the rich. that's not progressive, it's regressive. Double that medicare tax and the cost of ins goes away and you would be better off.
    Lulz. ^^ thinks doubling the Medicare part of FICA taxes to 2.9% will fund a lifetime of medical costs for 320+million people.

    If you make $30K per year, Prag here thinks you should have access to a lifetime of medical care for $870 a year.

    delusional.

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    There's no such thing as a free lunch. try as leftists may.

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    Funding Single Payer

    No one (but me) really even tried to answer the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I don't pay through the nose for anything.

    I was motivated to get good insurance, I didn't whine to the government to help me.
    You're still paying through the nose. If the stuff you're paying for cost a tenth of what it costs, your insurance premiums and out-of-pocket expenses would be correspondingly lower than they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    There's no such thing as a free lunch. try as leftists may.
    Now you'll go to some other thread where you'll tell us about your world travels, apparently ignoring how the civilized nations operate. I guess the whole world is leftist...except maybe Pakistan.

    Heh-heh...you're funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webrockk View Post
    There's no such thing as a free lunch. try as leftists may.
    There's none for leftists, either. We're okay with kicking into the pool. But you knew that. You just like your bromides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Bitching seems to be what republicans are good at.
    And obstructing.

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