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    Universal Health Care For Americans Baby Ya!



    We want the power for the people
    That's all we ask in our country dear
    The sick and the hungry are unable
    Protect them and those who may live in fear

    We as the young wish to say in this song
    God bless great America
    We give thanks to the old for acheiving their goal
    It is now up to us and we know we must build up a trust

    And we want the power for the people
    That's all we ask in our country dear
    The sick and the hungry are unable
    Protect them and those who may live in fear

    Power for the people
    Power for the people
    Power for the people

    Hardening crimes is a part of the times and it's rough for some people to live
    Disease can move fast but it don't have to last
    It is now the nation's turn for all to be concerned
    We can be freer still, it is the people's will

    And bring back the power for the people
    That's all we ask in our country dear
    The sick and the hungry are unable
    Protect them and those who may live in fear

    Power for the people
    Power for the people
    Power for the people
    Power for the people
    Power for the people
    Power

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will introduce legislation on Wednesday that would expand Medicare into a universal health insurance program with the backing of at least 15 Democratic senators — a record level of support for an idea that had been relegated to the fringes during the last Democratic presidency.

    “This is where the country has got to go,” Sanders said in an interview at his Senate office. “Right now, if we want to move away from a dysfunctional, wasteful, bureaucratic system into a rational health-care system that guarantees coverage to everyone in a cost-effective way, the only way to do it is Medicare for All.”

    Sanders’s bill, the Medicare for All Act of 2017, has no chance of passage in a Republican-run Congress. But after months of behind-the-scenes meetings and a public pressure campaign, the bill is already backed by most of the senators seen as likely 2020 Democratic candidates — if not by most senators facing tough reelection battles in 2018.

    The bill would revolutionize America’s health-care system, replacing it with a public system that would be paid for by higher taxes. Everything from emergency surgery to prescription drugs, from mental health to eye care, would be covered, with no co-payments. Americans under 18 would immediately obtain “universal Medicare cards,” while Americans not currently eligible for Medicare would be phased into the program over four years. Employer-provided health care would be replaced, with the employers paying higher taxes but no longer on the hook for insurance.

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/power...=.03d07f95ba48

    No more Obamacare bullshit.

    After 70 years, let's join the civilized world and provide EVERY human living here with a basic level of health care.
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    Sorry but I don't want to see my taxes go up to 70%.

    You guys forget that this actually has to be paid for.

    You can't just wish it and make it happen.
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    Yet you don't seem particularly upset about paying through the nose for medical goods and services that are a lot cheaper in every other developed country because their politicians aren't owned by the medical industries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnbskts View Post
    Yet you don't seem particularly upset about paying through the nose for medical goods and services that are a lot cheaper in every other developed country because their politicians aren't owned by the medical industries.
    I don't pay through the nose for anything.

    I was motivated to get good insurance, I didn't whine to the government to help me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Sorry but I don't want to see my taxes go up to 70%.

    You guys forget that this actually has to be paid for.

    You can't just wish it and make it happen.
    Spooky, you will no longer have to pay the cost of health care with after-tax dollars, or else go without. This is a BARGAIN.

    MORE IMPORTANTLY, you will no longer live among people who cannot get care, and that will lower crime rates, increase employment rates, raise HS graduation rates, etc. Your quality of life will be MUCH better, in ways that ONLY universal care can achieve.

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    No but my taxes will go up costing more in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    I don't pay through the nose for anything.

    I was motivated to get good insurance, I didn't whine to the government to help me.
    Silly post. The "rugged individual" motif is absolutely irrelevant to the question of how to get everyone who lives in your town to see the doctor as needed.

    Besides, if you are so fucking self-reliant, why bother to ever see a doctor AT ALL? Just rub some dirt on it.

    Don't let the 0.01% sell you a bucket of bullshit again, Spooky. Universal care is a blessing of government and we ALL deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    No but my taxes will go up costing more in the long run.
    This is 100% NOT TRUE, as has been proven over and over and over.

    Your costs will go DOWN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeline View Post
    This is 100% NOT TRUE, as has been proven over and over and over.

    Your costs will go DOWN.
    Hmmm, so how do you plan on paying for it?

    They said the same thing with Obamacare but that didn't happen did it?

    You are going to cover everyone for less money than we spend now.

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Hmmm, so how do you plan on paying for it?

    They said the same thing with Obamacare but that didn't happen did it?

    You are going to cover everyone for less money than we spend now.

    lol
    Whatever system you go with it will have to be in place probably 10 years before you see if it is successful. To say after 1-2 yrs it does not work is fucking stupid but then we expect that from you.
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