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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Mmm - I'm not talking about a "survey", I'm talking about researchers at Harvard and Northeastern universities

    Maybe take the time to actually click on the links provide for you in the future?
    What you are referring to is a survey led by David Hemenway of Harvard. He has led these surveys since the 1990s. There data comes from online surveys, which I addressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    What you are referring to is a survey led by David Hemenway of Harvard. He has led these surveys since the 1990s. There data comes from online surveys, which I addressed.
    Yes I see you went on some rant that does not even make sense and you only provided your opinion but no links to back that up.

    Just like you did when the Guardian provided actual mass shooting stats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Yes I see you went on some rant that does not even make sense and you only provided your opinion but no links to back that up.

    Just like you did when the Guardian provided actual mass shooting stats.
    I am pretty certain that stating that the Harvard paper's results were based on a survey, which is stated in the survey, is not a rant. That would be a statement of fact, not my opinion. That applies to the Guardian. I guess the links would be to the study you cited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    I am pretty certain that stating that the Harvard paper's results were based on a survey, which is stated in the survey, is not a rant. That would be a statement of fact, not my opinion. That applies to the Guardian. I guess the links would be to the study you cited.
    No, I'm talking about how you interjected your opinion about survey/study and the Guardian numbers without backing any of it up.

    For instance, if the Guardian numbers are wrong, prove it. Same with the Harvard study. How was their methodology flawed for instance?

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    (These data come from NORC at the University of Chicago’s 2015 General Social Survey, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s 2011 survey, the Congressional Research Service, the Federal Reserve, research by Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck, and a survey conducted in 2015 by Harvard and Northeastern University researchers.)
    From the OP article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    No, I'm talking about how you interjected your opinion about survey/study and the Guardian numbers without backing any of it up.

    For instance, if the Guardian numbers are wrong, prove it. Same with the Harvard study. How was their methodology flawed for instance?
    I am pretty sure I explained it in detail. The numbers are wrong and are not calculable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splansing View Post
    From the OP article.
    Still surveys that are contradicted by actual data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    Still surveys that are contradicted by actual data.
    Which data? I crave data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    I am pretty sure I explained it in detail. The numbers are wrong and are not calculable.
    No you didn't. You just said the numbers were wrong. It's really not that hard to track mass shootings.

    And again, what is flawed about the methodology of the Harvard survey?

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    Which data? I crave data.
    The data is in my posts in this thread.

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