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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    What is wrong with encouraging people to move where the jobs are?
    What are the chances anyone can't find a job within 150 miles? In Germany? The whole country is only like 150 miles across. How many people could possibly be collecting on something like that? It's a preposterous policy and it shouldn't exist. I am skeptical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Djinn,

    Car breakings have become quazi-legal. Since it is now just a misdemeanor, the police have stopped bothering to enforce them.

    And the law went into effect in 2015, not 2016.

    But thank you for posting a link that supports my contentions, i.e., that car break ins increased markedly after the law went into effect.

    Here's more links to show that it is only getting worse:

    As car break-ins jump 28 percent in San Francisco, police shuffle response - San Francisco Chronicle

    An explosion of California property crimes ? due to Prop. 47 - San Francisco Chronicle

    Did California prison reform lead to an increase in crime? | Fox News

    Unintended consequences of Prop. 47 pose challenge for criminal justice system - LA Times
    According to your own link, the Proposition 47 affects the following crimes:

    • Shoplifting, where the value of property stolen does not exceed $950
    • Grand theft, where the value of the stolen property does not exceed $950
    • Receiving stolen property, where the value of the property does not exceed $950
    • Forgery, where the value of forged check, bond or bill does not exceed $950
    • Fraud, where the value of the fraudulent check, draft or order does not exceed $950
    • Writing a bad check, where the value of the check does not exceed $950
    • Personal use of most illegal drugs


    The only way that a car break-in MIGHT be considered a misdemeanor is if the individual stole nothing, and managed to enter the car without damaging it. Any sort of theft or damage would make it a felony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    According to your own link, the Proposition 47 affects the following crimes:

    • Shoplifting, where the value of property stolen does not exceed $950
    • Grand theft, where the value of the stolen property does not exceed $950
    • Receiving stolen property, where the value of the property does not exceed $950
    • Forgery, where the value of forged check, bond or bill does not exceed $950
    • Fraud, where the value of the fraudulent check, draft or order does not exceed $950
    • Writing a bad check, where the value of the check does not exceed $950
    • Personal use of most illegal drugs


    The only way that a car break-in MIGHT be considered a misdemeanor is if the individual stole nothing, and managed to enter the car without damaging it. Any sort of theft or damage would make it a felony.
    Mr. djinn,

    Unless you have gold bars in your car, the value of a few CD, the change in your spare change cup, even a lap top will never exceed $950. Property damage, i.e., breaking a window is a separate crime and is not additive to the costs. Even if it did, the cops have stopped bothering investigating them because the DA rarely prosecute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. djinn,

    Unless you have gold bars in your car, the value of a few CD, the change in your spare change cup, even a lap top will never exceed $950. Property damage, i.e., breaking a window is a separate crime and is not additive to the costs. Even if it did, the cops have stopped bothering investigating them because the DA rarely prosecute.
    Breaking into the car is a crime separate from theft. As such, any form of theft ON TOP OF the misdemeanor car break-in becomes a felony automatically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libertine View Post
    What is wrong with encouraging people to move where the jobs are?
    If they could afford to move, they probably would already have a job and not need to move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    Breaking into the car is a crime separate from theft. As such, any form of theft ON TOP OF the misdemeanor car break-in becomes a felony automatically.
    Mr. Djinn,

    Your mouth moves, but only false words come out. Two misdemeanors do not a felony make.

    That's like saying a guy busted pissing on a wall whilst smoking a crack pipe is going to be charged as felony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Djinn,

    Your mouth moves, but only false words come out. Two misdemeanors do not a felony make.

    That's like saying a guy busted pissing on a wall whilst smoking a crack pipe is going to be charged as felony.
    I'm citing California law. A theft committed on top of a misdemeanor is a felony. That's why shoplifting a $5 item is a misdemeanor, but stealing a $5 item after breaking into a store after-hours is a felony theft (in addition to the breaking and entering charge).
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberthughey View Post
    Not wanting to do anything about illegal immigration
    You consider not wanting to build a wall not wanting to do anything? I don't think even the extreme left doesn't want to do anything much less the rational left.

    Allowing a woman to have an abortion anytime during pregnancy
    That is like none of yours or mines business, why do you feel that it is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    Yearly inspections of private homes with children to prevent child abuse/neglect/malnourishment.
    the extreme left wants to do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    We're Americans. We can move. I'm from Pittsburgh--you know how many people left my hometown for jobs and lives elsewhere when the steel industry collapsed?
    just pick up entire family, sell house, pull kids out of school, for a job that may not even be what you are looking for?
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