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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Oh... you still listen to the Internets crazy cat lady... that explains a thing or 2.
    Please, quote and link to a credible source supporting your claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Wrong direction. The trade deals are what made China the powerhouse...
    It was american business men like trump, in search of cheap labor and high profits, that made China a superpower.

    Merchants have not country…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    No, China became a powerhouse because they have more power. Literally. They have a workforce that dwarfs that of the U.S. - and they're willing to work for less money.

    In the U.S., we share a border with two countries; Canada and Mexico. China shares its borders with 14 nations; all of which are falling over each other for China's approval.

    The U.S. can't compete with that. We will never be able to compete with that. Killing trade deals with China would hurt the U.S. way more than it would hurt China. Perhaps you're thinking we could simply import from other countries. Wrong. Other countries don't want to risk losing favor with China, and they aren't likely to rush in and help fill the gap. Especially given our administration's anti-globalization policies.

    When we were the only country capable of manufacturing decent cars and televisions, we had plenty of resources with which to make them. But now we need germanium. Neodymium. Terbium. Rhenium. Lithium. We can't mine these in the volumes needed for manufacturing. You know where those can be found in HUGE amounts? They're in China, and in countries where you travel to China via train. Over 90% of our rare earth demand is met by China. They have the most reserves, the highest production, and there's no country that will risk pissing them off to help us out.

    Scuttling trade agreements with China won't change this. Not now, not ever.
    Lmao... I'm sorry man, you're missing way too much information to be discussing this topic like you know what you are talking about... and I don't feel the need to go over the past 30 years of history that you've been deprived instead only given this partial story.

    The people that sold you that version are the same people who praise Mao and his great leap forward (the 80 million dead is just a few broken eggs for the omelet)...

    Then again, you might be one more who struggles to grasp the distinctions between cause and effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Please, quote and link to a credible source supporting your claim.
    Lmao... but you treat snopes as credible... you demonstrate an inability to distinguish fact from fiction for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    It was american business men like trump, in search of cheap labor and high profits, that made China a superpower.

    Merchants have not country…
    This is closer to the point, but trump was against those deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Lmao... I'm sorry man, you're missing way too much information to be discussing this topic like you know what you are talking about... and I don't feel the need to go over the past 30 years of history that you've been deprived instead only given this partial story.

    The people that sold you that version are the same people who praise Mao and his great leap forward (the 80 million dead is just a few broken eggs for the omelet)...

    Then again, you might be one more who struggles to grasp the distinctions between cause and effect.
    You're talking history; I'm talking about where we stand today, and the options available to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    You're talking history; I'm talking about where we stand today, and the options available to us.
    Regardless, you're only seeing half the picture... you are correct that there is nothing the us can do to prevent China from becoming a further economic giant.

    The defeatist attitude that is going along with it is completely uncalled for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    The Chinese are brilliant. They are playing Trump like a fiddle. Trump is easy to manipulate. Flatter him and treat him like he is KING SHIT.
    The Chinese invited Trump to the Forbidden City (which is a palace) in the middle of Beijing.

    The history of the Forbidden City begins in the 15th century when it was built as the palace of the Ming emperors of China. It is located in the centre of Beijing, China, and was the Chinese imperial palace from the mid-Ming Dynasty to the end of the Qing Dynasty in 1912. It has been a museum since the 1920s.

    Built from 1406 to 1420, the palace complex has undergone many changes.[1] After serving as the imperial palace for some five hundred years, the Forbidden City became a museum, the Palace Museum, in 1925. In 1987, it was declared a World Heritage Site by UNESCO.[2]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...Forbidden_City
    Nice discussion about the Forbidden City. So what has that to do with Trump?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friday13 View Post
    Seems to be working well...

    Trump: I don't blame China for taking advantage of us on trade

    President Donald Trump lavished praise on China for the very trade practices he once lambasted as unfair during a remarkable morning session in Beijing.

    Emerging after two hours of talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Trump said he doesn't fault China for taking advantage of differences between the way the two countries do business.

    "I don't blame China," Trump said during remarks to business leaders inside the Great Hall of the People. "After all, who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for benefit of their citizens? I give China great credit."

    Instead of pointing the finger at Beijing for exacerbating trade disputes, Trump blamed past US administrations "for allowing this trade deficit to take place and to grow."

    It was a notable shift in tone from a President who was elected to office partly for his tough talk on holding other countries accountable for practices that disadvantage US workers. Even as he made the remarks, Trump sought to bolster his image as a hard-nosed negotiator, announcing $250 billion in agreements between US companies and China.

    Precise details of the agreements weren't immediately available, however, and many are said to have been in the works long before Trump was elected. The figures aren't expected to make a dent in the US trade deficit with China.

    trump is a typically chickenshit bully.. talking tough about China but when he goes face to face with Xi trump is a kowtowing weakling.

    No doubt trump will talk tough again when he gets home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedminator View Post
    trump is a typically chickenshit bully.. talking tough about China but when he goes face to face with Xi trump is a kowtowing weakling.

    No doubt trump will talk tough again when he gets home.
    So trump acting diplomatically is now a bad thing... wasn't Obama bowing to everyone a good thing?

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