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    Quote Originally Posted by Djinn View Post
    The fact remains that China has advantages that the United States doesn't - and will never have. The manufacturing boom of the 1950s and 1960s was a post WWII anomaly. China has a far larger workforce that is willing to work for less money. Furthermore, they are geographically in the middle of a raw materials supply network, so if you tried building a Foxconn-style tech hardware megafactory in the U.S., and you staffed it with employees willing to work low wages, it would still be less profitable than Chinese companies, since China doesn't have to deal with an overseas supply chain.

    This is an unalterable reality that nothing short of moving continents around will change.
    Previous administrations allowed China to whip us in trade. Favorable trade for China at our expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Playing him is right on the money

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
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    I don’t blame China, I blame the incompetence of past Admins for allowing China to take advantage of the U.S. on trade leading up to a point where the U.S. is losing $100's of billions. How can you blame China for taking advantage of people that had no clue? I would've done same!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...69154345324544

    So yeah, check the next box in that he is full of crap - a complete 180 from what he said on the campaign trail.

    And how wonderful to have a president who boasts about screwing people over
    Now trump sounds like a narcissistic sociopath.

    https://truthlover5.com/2012/12/07/p...ian-secretive/

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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Previous administrations allowed China to whip us in trade. Favorable trade for China at our expense.
    Previous administrations yielded to pressure from American business in search of bigger profits, and reduced accountability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by THOR View Post
    Previous administrations allowed China to whip us in trade. Favorable trade for China at our expense.
    Don't worry Trump's going to fix all that. Oh wait no he's not, never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    You just seem not to get how ironic these kinds of posts are from you - the super Alex Jones fanboy.
    That's why You need the ad hominem argument, right?

    Have you ever questioned snopes determinations on anything? No, of course you don't, you turn to them to confirm your biases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    That's why You need the ad hominem argument, right?

    Have you ever questioned snopes determinations on anything? No, of course you don't, you turn to them to confirm your biases.
    Every one get's it wrong from time to time. Snopes has a very, very good track record overhaul.

    Your boy? Not so much.

    And I'm laughing at you, of all people, talk about bias.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Every one get's it wrong from time to time. Snopes has a very, very good track record overhaul.

    Your boy? Not so much.

    And I'm laughing at you, of all people, talk about bias.
    Alex Jones sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    Every one get's it wrong from time to time. Snopes has a very, very good track record overhaul.

    Your boy? Not so much.

    And I'm laughing at you, of all people, talk about bias.
    A) I don't use Alex Jones as a source for anything because then it becomes a discussion about Alex Jones... Usually not based in reality.

    B) snopes only has a good track record if you get your worldview from CNN/MSNBC. They have declared many things false when there was abundant documentation of the veracity of he topic. Also, they have declared things true that were completely false or at best speculation.

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    Alex Jones sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmanmcfly View Post
    Alex Jones sucks.
    Yes that's why you defend him every chance your get and have repeated some of his tin foil hat stuff.

    As far as Snopes goes, you rail on them a lot with backing it up. Par for the course.

    Anyway back to the actual topic


    Beyond the numbers, it’s Trump’s embrace of Xi that has diplomats and human rights activists around the world concerned. China’s government is “playing Trump like a fiddle,” said Jorge Guajardo, Mexico’s ambassador to China from 2007 to 2013. “You don’t have good chemistry with a Chinese leader who doesn’t speak your language and is geared to not develop chemistry,” he said.

    The Communist Party’s top aides are masterful at making diplomats and foreign businessmen feel special, he said, warning that Trump may be particularly susceptible to Beijing’s tactic of flattering foreigners with over-the-top ceremony and then refusing to change. “You leave that meeting thinking ‘It went great,’” said Guajardo. And then when it comes time to negotiate a practical agreement, if you invoke the special friendship you’ve formed, Beijing officials “laugh and say ‘No, let’s not confuse all that pomp and circumstance with the meat of the matter.’”

    The fact that Beijing went to such lengths is a sign that Trump’s tough talk in the run up to the last year’s presidential election has the Communist Party concerned, analysts say. But rather than responding with strong demands, Trump has been incredibly conciliatory. The next day, Trump tweeted compliments and thanks to Xi for the extravagant welcome, including a video of his carefully scripted walk through Tiananman Square—site of an incident so sensitive that China scrubs any mention of it, including the date that it happened, from the internet.


    At the request of Beijing, questions were banned at the joint press conference Trump and Xi held, just the way that the authoritarian Communist Party prefers things, despite the fact that previous US administrations had insisted they be allowed.

    https://qz.com/1125161/trump-in-chin...like-a-fiddle/


    Kind of scary that due to over the top flattery, Mr. Moron now has noting but praise for ruthless consolidation of power by an autocrat at the helm of a repressive one-party state.

    But then again it seems he admires people like that.

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