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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    So you think every poster on this board is lazy,incompetent and never worked a day?

    Keep in mind you are one of us and I have to wonder how we all have computers,smart phones,cable,etc?

    I will now take a poll of posters.

    How many here are now on welfare?

    How many worked themselves up from the bottom?

    How many never worked a day in their life?

    Just 3 simple questions.
    I apparently live in my grandmothers basement according to the lefties.

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    Another example of everybody knowing the person is trolling, except the mods. The forum must be the one paying him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookycolt View Post
    Ambassadors never negotiate anything on their own.

    Never.

    Can you imagine the president hearing on the news that one of his ambassadors just negotiated some deal with a foreign nation that he knew nothing about?

    Yeah, that just doesn't happen.
    I have worked directly with and for three ambassadors since 2013. They spend a lot of time negotiating on their own. In line with and in the interests of their nation's official policy, yes, but on their own. Someone needs to be THERE to convey the official policy, someone needs to ask and answer questions and fine-tune details, and that someone is an ambassador. Negotiating is much more than just coming up with your own new ideas (which, yes, ambassadors don't and shouldn't do under normal circumstances).

    Additionally, there is a lot more going on than just "deals with foreign nations." There are agreements on cooperation in specific areas and / or in between individual entities, memoranda of understanding, information exchange, public and non-public arrangements. Much of that requires specific knowledge of local conditions and customs. No one can expect the head of state (or anyone else) to outline, supervise and negotiate all of that, in all countries, at all times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helena View Post
    No one can expect the head of state (or anyone else) to outline, supervise and negotiate all of that, in all countries, at all times.
    Nor is it reasonable for a head-of-state to think he can do it all himself, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly5 View Post
    Somehow I get the feeling that if Trump had wanted to increase the number of personal working in our foreign embassies instead of decreasing them, you would be fine with it. You simply see which direction Trump is moving and immediately get on board. I don't think the idea of right or wrong even enters into your thinking process.
    No duh.

    That would be called a tribute to Chris Stevens. Would be called Trump doing right by our essential foreign service after years of neglect by past administrations.


    Now Trump has shoved years worth of neglect into less than ten months in office and -- because the orange buffoon did it -- that's exactly what we need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Nor is it reasonable for a head-of-state to think he can do it all himself, either.
    Trump was supposed to be good at picking good people to get the work done for him.

    He sucks at every single aspect of what he supposedly -- as an allegedly successful businessman -- was good at.


    Now it's much easier to appreciate those who pointed out that if he had just put the money his daddy gave him into the market he would be ahead of where he got with all of his businesses and bankruptcies.

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    The head of an organization representing US diplomats around the world excoriated the State Department's leadership in a letter Wednesday, saying the agency's senior tiers "are being depleted at a dizzying speed," resulting in "a decapitation of its leadership ranks." Amb. Barbara Stephenson, president of the American Foreign Service Association (AFSA), a union for US foreign service personnel, wrote the letter for the December issue of the group's publication.

    "While I do my best, as principal advocate for our institution and as a seasoned American diplomat, to model responsible, civil discourse," she wrote, "there is simply no denying the warning signs that point to mounting threats to our institution -- and to the global leadership that depends on us." Career ambassadors are the most elite US diplomats in the foreign service. Fewer than 60 individuals have attained the rank since it was instituted in 1955. Of the five people who held the rank at the beginning of the administration, three have since retired.


    In her letter, Stephenson lamented the department's partial hiring freeze, which has slowed the intake of junior foreign service officers. "As the shape and extent of the staffing cuts to the Foreign Service at State become clearer," Stephenson wrote, "I believe we must shine a light on these disturbing trends and ask 'why?' and 'to what end?'"

    Top diplomat: State Department being 'depleted' - CNNPolitics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Trump was supposed to be good at picking good people to get the work done for him.

    He sucks at every single aspect of what he supposedly -- as an allegedly successful businessman -- was good at.


    Now it's much easier to appreciate those who pointed out that if he had just put the money his daddy gave him into the market he would be ahead of where he got with all of his businesses and bankruptcies.
    No he doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Trump was supposed to be good at picking good people to get the work done for him.

    He sucks at every single aspect of what he supposedly -- as an allegedly successful businessman -- was good at.


    Now it's much easier to appreciate those who pointed out that if he had just put the money his daddy gave him into the market he would be ahead of where he got with all of his businesses and bankruptcies.
    Every single aspect... Can you list 3 with an example?

    Of course not, but it is fun to watch you all squirm, acting like the smartest people in the room but can't form an argument.

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    I've been hearing for a while now that the State Department is losing personnel and I've wondered why. In the comments is this post and it seems it could be the likely reason.



    And a dash of this mixed in.



    Why Is Donald Trump Destroying the State Department? ? Mother Jones
    lol...that's a question we ask ourselves ever day...

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