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    My fear of getting rid of the Star Spangled Banner is that we'd end up with that shitty Lee Greenwood song.
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    America, the Beautiful is more up to date. When the Star Spangled Banner was written, the US didn't go from "sea to shining sea."
    So, that makes the first one more inclusive.
    Or, we could go with "This land is your land." Either one is better than the current anthem.

    Let's dump the anthem, written by a slaver, and while we're at it the flag salute as well. It was, after all, written by a socialist. A new salute could be written, perhaps starting with "We hold these truths to be self evident," and glorifying liberty rather than loyalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    My fear of getting rid of the Star Spangled Banner is that we'd end up with that shitty Lee Greenwood song.
    Now, that would suck.

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    How about this song? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    My fear of getting rid of the Star Spangled Banner is that we'd end up with that shitty Lee Greenwood song.
    Nope, I have the perfect song. We will need to research it thoroughly to make sure that nothing offends anyone. It is considered a rock song and the country music fans and rap fans could be offended. Then we would need to discuss the "little pink houses" part to make sure it is gender neutral. We would also need to research John Mellencamp's family to see what they were up to when the Constitution was signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallie Knoetze View Post
    Mr. Dittohead,

    No. Just because some whack jobs are offended by a verse that nobody even knows existed, and isn't in the least offensive, does not mean we need to abandon the anthem.
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    The Pledge of Allegiance is an oath of allegiance to the United States, addressed to both the flag and the Republic. It was composed by Rear Admiral George Balch in 1887, and revised by Francis Bellamy in 1892. In 1942 it was formally adopted by Congress.[3][4][5][6] Congress gave it the name The Pledge of Allegiance in 1945. In 1954 the words "under God" were added.[7]


    Balch and Bellamy pledges
    The Pledge of Allegiance, as it exists in its current form, was composed in August 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855–1931), who was a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist,[11][12] and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850–1898). There did exist a previous version created by Rear Admiral George Balch, a veteran of the Civil War, who later become auditor of the New York Board of Education. Balch's pledge, which existed contemporaneously with the Bellamy version until the 1923 National Flag Conference, read:

    We give our heads and hearts to God and our country; one country, one language, one flag![3]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge...United_States)

    Imagine......America adopting the words of a militarist and a "socialist", cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy as a "Pledge of Allegiance", then having the "gall" to change it to add "under God" later.......


    Hell, the "National Anthem" was not even a national anthem, until 1931......and the words of the poem Francis Scott Key wrote were put, NOT to the music of an American composer, but to that of a popular British tune.......

    Why is it you seem so offended by people that appear to be more knowledgeable than you (or others) about this nation's national anthem (knowing more than one verse or that more than one verse existed)? What is your "standard" for measuring whether anyone is a whack job or not (their being offended by something?) and would you fit into your own definition, by your own apparent being offended by those offended by something that speaks to the subject of human slavery?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-literacy_law

    "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
    Isaac Asimov, Column in Newsweek (21 January 1980)
    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism

    Extract from Thomas Jefferson’s “Bill for the More General Diffusion of Knowledge”
    ".....experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms, those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny; and it is believed that the most effectual means of preventing this would be, to illuminate, as far as practicable, the minds of the people at large, and more especially to give them knowledge of those facts, which history exhibiteth, that, possessed thereby of the experience of other ages and countries, they may be enabled to know ambition under all its shapes, and prompt to exert their natural powers to defeat its purposes ... whence it becomes expedient for promoting the publick happiness that those persons, whom nature hath endowed with genius and virtue, should be rendered by liberal education worthy to receive, and able to guard the sacred deposit of the rights and liberties of their fellow citizens, and that they should be called to that charge without regard to wealth, birth or other accidental condition or circumstance...."

    -Thomas Jefferson - Fall 1778 - Papers 2:526--27

    Epilogue: Securing the Republic: Thomas Jefferson, Preamble to a Bill for the More General Diffusion of Knowledge

    https://founders.archives.gov/docume...0132-0004-0079

    Extract from Thomas Jefferson's ?Bill for the More General Diffusion of Knowledge,? Dec. 1778 [Quote] | Jefferson Quotes & Family Letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Sampson Simpson View Post


    How about this song? LOL


    Never really knew what "fuck yeah" was literally supposed to mean, but for an urban dictionary/slang "exclamation"/affirmative to the word, "yes" and whatever anyone might be saying the word "yes" or agreeing to. "F*CK also seems to be used in some pretty base negative ways, too...

    I imagine our POTUS might add "pussy grabbing", "F*ck yeah"...... as a stanza to your proposed entry for a changed National Anthem......
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    Well, one option would be to just update/remove those obscure nearly unknown lyrics.


    But if that doesn't satisfy the masses my vote for replacement goes to LAYLA....!!!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Well, one option would be to just update/remove those obscure nearly unknown lyrics.


    But if that doesn't satisfy the masses my vote for replacement goes to LAYLA....!!!!!

    I am outraged and offended!! You did not research the lyrics and Layla is a player and not a nice girl. How dare you!!

    I do agree with Eric Clapton tho....since he is smoking hot. How about a date night song for our new Anthem....at least until romance is considered bad. I guess you could look at this song two ways....date night romantic...or just a good warm up for yoga practice. It has multiple uses. See what you think...


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    Quote Originally Posted by HCProf View Post
    I am outraged and offended!! You did not research the lyrics and Layla is a player and not a nice girl. How dare you!!

    I do agree with Eric Clapton tho....since he is smoking hot. How about a date night song for our new Anthem....at least until romance is considered bad. I guess you could look at this song two ways....date night romantic...or just a good warm up for yoga practice. It has multiple uses. See what you think...


    Love that song.

    (There aren't too many bad ones in the Clapton playlist.....)
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