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    [GW@133] Kim Davis

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    Taxpayers on hook for Kentucky clerk Kim Davis' fight against gay marriage

    Now,one of her opponents is a gay man she refused a license.
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    Guess what, that is how it is supposed to be. She was acting in her official capacity, therefore, the county pays the defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    She was acting in her official capacity, therefore, the county pays the defense.
    Except that her "official capacity" has no religious beliefs; those are hers in a private capacity. To say that she was acting in her official capacity is to state that she was explicitly violating the Establishment Clause, which is the opposite of what her position was (and probably still is). This would be her trying to eat her cake and have it, too.

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    The taxpayers of Kentucky voted for her so they deserve to get dinged for the costs and she deserves to be voted out. If they keep voting her in I hope she keeps fucking up and costing them more money in taxes. It's kind of a twist on you get what you pay for, HA HA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Jeffrey View Post
    Except that her "official capacity" has no religious beliefs; those are hers in a private capacity. To say that she was acting in her official capacity is to state that she was explicitly violating the Establishment Clause, which is the opposite of what her position was (and probably still is). This would be her trying to eat her cake and have it, too.
    She doesn't issue marriage licenses in her private capacity. She only does that in her official capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    The taxpayers of Kentucky voted for her so they deserve to get dinged for the costs and she deserves to be voted out. If they keep voting her in I hope she keeps fucking up and costing them more money in taxes. It's kind of a twist on you get what you pay for, HA HA.
    I just read that she is planning to run for reelection. Sad isn't it after all the problems she caused people wanting to get married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    She doesn't issue marriage licenses in her private capacity. She only does that in her official capacity.
    Then even more of a case those folks would have since in her official capacity she showed a clear bias against the LGBT Community and refused to issue them marriage licenses that her office was charged with issuing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DemoWhip View Post
    Then even more of a case those folks would have since in her official capacity she showed a clear bias against the LGBT Community and refused to issue them marriage licenses that her office was charged with issuing.
    That's already been handled. Licenses are now issued without a signature in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. The voters can choose to reelect her or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    She doesn't issue marriage licenses in her private capacity. She only does that in her official capacity.
    Not performing the duties required of her in her official capacity is what landed her in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    She doesn't issue marriage licenses in her private capacity. She only does that in her official capacity.
    Her official capacity was TO issue marriage licenses. She, not the state, REFUSED to do so. So why is the state paying to defend an employee for NOT doing what was her elected/LEGAL duty to do?

    She chose to refuse to do her duty, NOT the state.

    But, if the people of Kentucky are willing to pay for an employee that refused to perform the duties of a job she was elected to perform, because of her personal interpretations of her religious beliefs (does she ask all applicants for marriage licenses, whether they are fornicators or sinners in some other manner? Does she believe divorce, like her own, is NOT condemned in her Bible, the same way adultery is?), then let them. They'll lose, not only on a federal level, but on a longer term, political level, at least in part, because of her own hypocrisy and inconsistencies in her "beliefs" and failure to apply them equitably to all applicants, where refusing to sign licenses based on her belief those obtaining the licenses were doing something sinful.

    Of course, the people of Kentucky that have a say in her re-election have a choice to re-elect her. When she continues to cost them money to defend her "beliefs" and she keeps losing, they might begin to connect dots they do not appear to be able to, as yet. If she and those who may have elected her because she refused to issue marriage licenses prefer to live in a theocracy, they might try reading about the history of humanity then, founding their own theocracy, even if after reading history, they still want to do so. They might also think about any problems they have with Muslim or any other types of theocracies that currently exist in this day and age and why they have problems with them.
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