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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    All men are abusive. If there's a dispute, the man is lying.
    You're sounding like a victim.
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    Your post today, are unintelligible. Are you feeling alright?
    Okay. If you find what I've said in that post confusing I will try to explain what I mean in words you will understand.

    This problem women have with the rate of sexual assault and sexual harassment isn't a new development. This hasn't developed because women have to turn to HR departments rather than men beating up other men. If so many men are guilty of sexual assault and sexual harassment, the problem is caused before men become men. Boys are taught some behaviors that bring on this problem for women. For example, it's considered a good thing for boys to "score" with girls. Boys are so cool if they can cop a feel or even better, hit a home run. *wink, wink* It gives boys the impression that doing those things makes them men and if they don't then they're wussies. As men they carry that over. The more sexual conquests the more manly they are.

    This didn't suddenly become a problem. It suddenly became a problem for men, but not for women. That's the problem you're having with this. This is a problem women have been dealing with for eons. We're pissed. You don't like it, tough shit. Which is essentially what men have been saying all along.
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    Last year, I saw a guy pouring a drink over a woman's head as she sat on the sidewalk. I slammed on the breaks and told him to KNOCK IT THE FUCK off. I walked over and he of course ran away, I asked who that was, she said it was her ex-boyfriend. I told her to tell him that I was looking for him. I swear, I do this kind of shit all the time. I don't want a cookie, I just want people in this thread to recognize that men very often take up for women.
    No one said they didn't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Do you "stand up" to evil women who get bullshit restraining orders against good men? I hope so, because a LOT of women will only do that if they don't like the woman. Men stand up to each other very quickly. Women have each others back a little too much.
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    And I know a woman who's ex-husband said his girlfriend bought him his car, and made the mortgage payments on his house to get out of paying child support.

    The point is that sometimes a woman has a darn good reason to not want contact with an ex, and there are other way to see that she doesn't have to see him while insuring he gets his visitation rights.

    As for lying - that isn't just a female behavior.

    Why would you want contact with a liar? I wouldn't.
    WHY DO DO YOU KEEP asking why I would want to contact "her?" Please just stop, this is really upsetting me. Once again, I'm talking about cases where women (or men) are outright lying. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

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    Single, are ya?
    No, I'm not, not that it's any of your fucking business.

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    WHY DO DO YOU KEEP asking why I would want to contact "her?" Please just stop, this is really upsetting me. Once again, I'm talking about cases where women (or men) are outright lying. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
    I do understand. It was a painful lesson learned, however, i did learn that i had no power to control someone else's lies, and the best I could do was limit contact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Okay. If you find what I've said in that post confusing I will try to explain what I mean in words you will understand.

    This problem women have with the rate of sexual assault and sexual harassment isn't a new development. This hasn't developed because women have to turn to HR departments rather than men beating up other men. If so many men are guilty of sexual assault and sexual harassment, the problem is caused before men become men. Boys are taught some behaviors that bring on this problem for women. For example, it's considered a good thing for boys to "score" with girls. Boys are so cool if they can cop a feel or even better, hit a home run. *wink, wink* It gives boys the impression that doing those things makes them men and if they don't then they're wussies. As men they carry that over. The more sexual conquests the more manly they are.
    This didn't suddenly become a problem. It suddenly became a problem for men, but not for women. That's the problem you're having with this. This is a problem women have been dealing with for eons. We're pissed. You don't like it, tough shit. Which is essentially what men have been saying all along.
    I'm not trying to play gotcha here but I'm pretty sure people have made it known how they feel about teaching abstinence. Ben Shapiro actually made a very similar point to what you're making. At least sort of similar. Anyways, he said that sometimes the rules are a little confusing. Which I agree with. But his rules, which are basically not having sex outside of marriage are very clear cut and that if that was the societal standard then we wouldn't have a lot of these problems. Now, I'm not on board with the no sex unless married. But I do agree that society sends a lot of mixed and confusing messages. We tell boys that they aren't men unless they have sex and we treat teenagers like they're weird if they don't wait until they're a little more mature to have sex. But then we tell them not to be too aggressive about it. We tell girls not to be easy and play hard to get and then we tell guys to back off immediately. So a lot of young men and women don't know what the hell to do and a lot of young men just say screw it, I want it so I'll just take it.
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    I do understand. It was a painful lesson learned, however, i did learn that i had no power to control someone else's lies, and the best I could do was limit contact.
    If you have a reason to call the police you should. I'm hoping you understand that I'm not implying that all women are lairs, I'm only saying that some are. Anyone who thinks that all women tell the truth, is just being silly.

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    You're sounding like a victim.
    OK, I'm out. Have a good night, I can't take this horseshit anymore.

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