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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    And yet troubles of the kind you describe rarely happen all at once, but by degrees. Actions that 10 years ago would have been terrible scandals are now met with a collective shrug. That's accomplished partly through what he says. And when really powerful people speak, their words are OFTEN actions. Signaling an intention to do something is an action.

    Other than getting a judiciary that will allow you to make abortion illegal, what progress do you see? You really think this tax bill is progress? The majority of your country disagrees, and it flies in the face of Trump's campaign. How about in 2019, when they notice the increased deficit they've created and insist on killing the social safety net. Is that one of your goals?

    I can understand your not understanding where he is headed if you ignore what he says. Like the loyalists to many evil leaders, you may discover you don't like where we end up and will wonder how it was you didn't see us going there.
    You really must stop taking your binary meds every day. I am not a loyalist. I did not vote for Trump. And as the OP requires, if he starts acting as rashly as he tweets, I will be on board to remove him.

    But anyone who studies the implementation of the ACA and Dodd Frank, and has conservative leanings, would wish as I do, to take these yokes off the backs of business. Ditto all the open door immigration policies. I'll take anything that moves us away from the Obama trajectory. That doesn't mean I will accept an evil man running the country as an autocrat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryPorter View Post
    Why not, you like mass shootings and pedophiles.
    Lmao... admitting that you support terrorist group but don't like the violence is not the same as saying that people deserve a presumption of innocence.

    I guess that's the level you gotta resort to..

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    You really must stop taking your binary meds every day.
    Now that's just insulting.
    I am not a loyalist. I did not vote for Trump.
    Yes, yes, you keep reminding us. But what difference does that make? You just want to play in the mud but not get dirty.
    And as the OP requires if he starts acting as rashly as he tweets, I will be on board to remove him.
    My point is that you won't be able to tell. He's already broken through so many norms that when he gets to the norm you think you now care about, you won't care about it anymore. That's how human beings are--we get used to things. At some point, we wonder how we managed to get to the new place that would have horrified us if it had happened all at once. That's what will happen to you, I think.

    It's not about "support". Voters and citizens don't support things so much as acquiesce to them. And you are acquiescing to Trump just fine.

    Look at you already--you're a Christian who is okay with having for a president who violates every moral norm you care about, and he's entirely unrepentant about anything. How can you trust someone like that with any power at all? And then you say those moral norms don't matter until he starts doing something REALLY bad. You're deluding yourself.

    But anyone who studies the implementation of the ACA and Dodd Frank, and has conservative leanings, would wish as I do, to take these yokes off the backs of business. Ditto all the open door immigration policies. I'll take anything that moves us away from the Obama trajectory. That doesn't mean I will accept an evil man running the country as an autocrat.
    But you don't mind an evil man running the country so long as he political party acquiesces to his evil? You will one day wake up from this dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One View Post
    Trump is no conservative. Even you have to be smart enough to know this.
    Then why do democrats hate him? What issue is he not conservative on. The Wall? The tax cuts? Immigration? Where are his liberal ideas if he is not conservative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    You have Trump confused with a normal rational human. But that's understandable.
    Democrats hate normal rational people

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Democrats hate normal rational people
    How in the fuck would you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Maybe its just me but but I don't admire racists and traitors.
    If that were true you would no vote for democrats like Obama and Hillary

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    Quote Originally Posted by steezer View Post
    Why do you think people voted against him?
    Yet he is the President

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennesseeRain View Post
    How in the fuck would you know?
    Just look at you and the other hateful democrats on this site

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Just look at you and the other hateful democrats on this site
    Yeah. I hate morons. Sue me.

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