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    Trump's Lawyer: Pres. Can't Be Guilty of Obstruction of Justice Under Constitution

    "(The) President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under (the Constitution's Article II) and has every right to express his view of any case," Dowd told Axios.

    The new defense comes after a tweet from Trump's account suggested the President knew former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn had lied to the FBI when he was fired in February, raising questions about whether Trump knew about Flynn's lying before pressuring former FBI Director James Comey to let go of inquiries into Russian election meddling.

    The position that Trump cannot obstruct justice -- which evokes a similar claim once made by former President Richard Nixon, who resigned over the Watergate scandal -- is sure to be debated as special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation intensifies. Flynn is the first administration official to be charged as part of the probe.

    Trump's personal lawyer claims the President can't obstruct justice - CNNPolitics

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    I think the original Nixon quote was: "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."

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    clearly the grounds keepers are Obama hold overs. Never have I seen so many rakes left about for WH staff to step on.
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    Expressing an opinion is fine. I think if it gets to court, the question to be answered is whether your boss saying "it would be nice if "X" happened" is just casual conversation or a de facto order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boontito View Post
    "(The) President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under (the Constitution's Article II) and has every right to express his view of any case," Dowd told Axios.

    The new defense comes after a tweet from Trump's account suggested the President knew former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn had lied to the FBI when he was fired in February, raising questions about whether Trump knew about Flynn's lying before pressuring former FBI Director James Comey to let go of inquiries into Russian election meddling.

    The position that Trump cannot obstruct justice -- which evokes a similar claim once made by former President Richard Nixon, who resigned over the Watergate scandal -- is sure to be debated as special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation intensifies. Flynn is the first administration official to be charged as part of the probe.

    Trump's personal lawyer claims the President can't obstruct justice - CNNPolitics

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    I think the original Nixon quote was: "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal."
    If Trump's lawyers were smart they'd tell Trump to keep his Pie Hole shut. It's common knowledge among lawyers that if you are being investigated it's best to keep your mouth shut.

    I just heard a comment from a well established lawyer. He said: "You see that fish hanging on the wall behind my desk? It wouldn't be there if it had kept it's mouth shut."

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    Are Trump's lawyers making a legal assertion AFTER someone screwed up and tweeted why Trump fired Flynn?

    If that tweet is the basis of Mueller's case...Trump has nothing to worry about.

    But Im sure Trump's lawyer knows as much as to what cards Mueller holds as Donald does.

    Im not a lawyer, but it seems to me the question of what did Trump know and when did he know it is not a question of OoJ but one of conspiracy...and that is the grand-daddy of charges in an impeachment proceeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DebateDrone View Post
    Are Trump's lawyers making a legal assertion AFTER someone screwed up and tweeted why Trump fired Flynn?

    If that tweet is the basis of Mueller's case...Trump has nothing to worry about.

    But Im sure Trump's lawyer knows as much as to what cards Mueller holds as Donald does.

    Im not a lawyer, but it seems to me the question of what did Trump know and when did he know it is not a question of OoJ but one of conspiracy...and that is the grand-daddy of charges in an impeachment proceeding.
    there's just so much here it's hard to know where to even start.. Of all the presidents a lawyer representing another president would want to remind people of , you'd think Nixon would be the very last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the watchman View Post
    there's just so much here it's hard to know where to even start.. Of all the presidents a lawyer representing another president would want to remind people of , you'd think Nixon would be the very last.
    Nixon could have survived Watergate, had he burned the tapes.

    Trump could probably survive the Mueller investigation, if someone took a sledgehammer to his smart phone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSwimmer View Post
    Nixon could have survived Watergate, had he burned the tapes.

    Trump could probably survive the Mueller investigation, if someone took a sledgehammer to his smart phone.
    Im not a Watergate expert, but my thinking is that there was too much evidence and testimony against Nixon. The tapes sealed the deal.

    After the tapes revealed what they did...there was no other way out.

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