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    The one thing I'll say is that we don't know if Trump is winning or not. When politicians move too quickly and in unpopular ways, they tend to lose elections. We haven't seen voter reactions to Trump's shenanigans--he's certainly not governing based on what he said during the campaign, except for social conservatives. When the GOP comes for medicare and social security next year, let's watch what happens.

    That's the thing about governing in a democracy--everyone in power looks like they are winning...until they aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Hard for me to say this as well.
    But if the people of America are stupid enough to accept this then we pretty much deserve what follows.
    The only thing to do is to crush any and all trump supporters in the mid-terms next year.
    Hmmm we stupid enough to accept

    MORE JOBS

    increased pay

    Lower Taxes,

    Stronger Dollar.

    Increased investment in the US.


    level of economic growth he have not seen since 2007
    Yep. We area stupid for supporting that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasselas View Post
    The one thing I'll say is that we don't know if Trump is winning or not. When politicians move too quickly and in unpopular ways, they tend to lose elections. We haven't seen voter reactions to Trump's shenanigans--he's certainly not governing based on what he said during the campaign, except for social conservatives. When the GOP comes for medicare and social security next year, let's watch what happens.

    That's the thing about governing in a democracy--everyone in power looks like they are winning...until they aren't.
    Agree although in 4 years things will swing back again. Its been like a non stop pendulum. I seriously didnt think republicans would win for a very long time after GW Bush. People were so angry and mad and it was really difficult to find someone who liked him and his policies. But here we are. In fact it only took 2 years for the GOP to begin winning again outside of the presidency. Voters are fickle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I know Making America Great Again is going to be devastating to our communist friends on the left.

    As for the rest of the patriots here in America .... it's party time !!
    I'm loving every second of the Trump administration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slartibartfast View Post
    Trump will win in many areas, much to the disgust of many anti-Trump Americans. He's the type of guy that needed to sort America out from it's pussy leadership over the last several Presidents. The problem is, you've breed too many snowflakes that views Trump as unpopular but he's saving your ass.
    Why can't you discuss the topic without bringing your blind, stupid hate of Obama into it?

    Funny how that shit works, doncha think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bajisima View Post
    Interesting article. Thoughts?

    This is one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to write and admit: Trump is winning. In the brief space of a week, he won a brief court fight to shove Mick Mulvaney to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Mulvaney wasted no time in unhinging a spate of consumer protection rulings, regulations, and personnel hires made during the Obama years.

    His SCOTUS pick, Neil Gorsuch, eagerly cast a vote to impose the Muslim travel ban. His EPA head, Scott Pruitt, delivered a couple million acres of public monument land in the West to oil, gas, and coal industry developers. Trump busily continues to pack the federal judiciary with a parade of ultra-conservative, strict, constructionist Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia clones. He switched gears and backed alleged pedophile Alabama judge Roy Moore in the Alabama Senate race, who almost certainly will win. The Republican National Committee, which had practically declared Moore a pariah, quickly jumped in and said it would back him. He got another sweet perk when Senate Democrats turned with a vengeance on Minnesota Senator Al Franken and virtually ordered him out of office. His subsequent resignation got rid of a pesky thorn for Trump.

    Trump’s biggest win, though, has come on three fronts. One is the GOP. It can rail and curse at him publicly and privately, but it needs Trump. The second front he’s winning on is the continuing love fest that his devout base has with him. While polls show that his overall approval ratings consistently wallow under forty percent, buried in the polling fine print is the overwhelming majority of whom back him. The third winning front for Trump is his perennial ace in the hole: the media. He remains a ratings cash cow for the networks and makes stunning copy for the print media. He knew that from day one of his presidential bid and he knows it even more now. This has been his patent ploy, distract and deflect. The public and networks take the bait every time.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b022ec613b823f
    This is why I like your comments. Though you are a critic of the president - you are wise enough to look past your own biases and view things in an objective manner. That is such a rare quality these days.

    Your points are well made - but I believe it is still too soon to say Trump is winning. The economy doing well is certainly beneficial toward him - but he needs to get that wall going up and NAFTA either reformed or repealed. The working Americans who left the democratic party and crossed over to support him are not going to be impressed by another conservative on the court or a performing stock market. They need better job opportunities - and that means more factories here in America and less illegal immigrants crowding the job market with cheap labor.

    I couldn't agree with you more though in respect to the media. They take his twitter bait every time and it's so sad how easily he plays them. You would think eventually they would learn but they never do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I know Making America Great Again is going to be devastating to our communist friends on the left.

    As for the rest of the patriots here in America .... it's party time !!
    HOW OLD ARE YOU? "Commie"?? You sound as petulant and ignorant as the man in the WH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Hmmm we stupid enough to accept

    MORE JOBS

    increased pay

    Lower Taxes,

    Stronger Dollar.

    Increased investment in the US.


    level of economic growth he have not seen since 2007
    Yep. We area stupid for supporting that.
    Nope.

    The tax cut is seventh largest, not first, Obama had two tax cuts that are larger than Trump's.

    Jobs... there are less new jobs on average each month than last year.

    "Employers added 1,189,000 jobs in February through August, according to data released Friday.

    That falls short of the 1,375,000 jobs created during Obama's last seven months."

    How Trump compares with Obama so far on jobs - Sep. 1, 2017

    So, once again you are full of it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    I know Making America Great Again is going to be devastating to our communist friends on the left.

    As for the rest of the patriots here in America .... it's party time !!

    Right comrade. You people are destroying America. And you know it.


    The world, and true Americans laugh at you. Myself, I'm embarrassed for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood View Post
    Hard for me to say this as well.
    But if the people of America are stupid enough to accept this then we pretty much deserve what follows.
    The only thing to do is to crush any and all trump supporters in the mid-terms next year.
    It... was... election... fraud. You don't have a democracy anymore.
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