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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Any proof of what?
    OMG Such paranoia from the right!

    It's all a conspiracy I tell ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Think for myself View Post
    Any proof of what?
    That any rumors of their sexual proclivities were relevant to their actions or behaviors that made them historical figures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John T Ford View Post
    Your hatred and racism falls upon deaf ears.

    Propaganda is king with the Democrats.

    The father of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, would be proud of California.
    An exceptionally irrational post on your part.

    Oh now, you should learn a bit more about history old boy, Goebbels no boubt studied the work of Edward Bernays. Advertising, marketing, public relations, all pretty much the same. In fact it was Edward Bernays that coined the term "public relations" in the 1920's only because the word "propaganda" gained a negative connotation during WWI. Goebbels no doubt carefully read Bernays book "propaganda" which was first published in 1928.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPups View Post
    Are they? Have any proof of that beyond speculation?
    You want them to rise from the dead and submit proof they were not gay??? WTF???
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPups View Post
    That any rumors of their sexual proclivities were relevant to their actions or behaviors that made them historical figures?
    First is why and second is how a correlation could be proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPups View Post
    That any rumors of their sexual proclivities were relevant to their actions or behaviors that made them historical figures?
    Seems you are saying that these persons' sexual identity had no part in their accomplishments.

    That being said...then one can clearly extrapolate then... that their sexual identity was neither an impediment to their success nor to the greater society as a whole.

    How great!
    You finally got what the educators were trying to convey to the students...Being gay is normal and one can accomplish great things just like any other segment of the population what ever one's sexual identity.

    Congratulations bro
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    So the law requires "'fair, accurate, inclusive, and respectful' treatment of homosexual, bisexual, transgender, and lesbian Americans"? Really? And it's not possible force schools to teach unfair, inaccurate, separative or disrespectful treatment of such people? How dare they!

    The next thing you know, they'll require children to learn that lynching was wrong!
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    Is sex education (or whatever the term) a standard part of the current curriculum in grade schools??

    Really have no idea. (It's was not when i was a kid....)

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    Quote Originally Posted by trumptman View Post
    It's a lot more complicated than that.

    I was once tossed out of a multicultural class by the instructor for throwing her own reasoning at her but a step further than she endorsed. She basically lost control due to the cognitive dissonance that her brain couldn't sort out and the values that it generated that she couldn't live with or assign to herself.

    What did I say that was so offensive? I agreed with her that forcing children to learn a new language and culture against their will would oppress them and lead to significant harm in their lives. The problem? She was applying it to English and American Culture, and I applied it to Spanish and Catholic culture.

    See it's easy to hate Christopher Columbus in our revised history. It gets a little harder when you have to do the same to Father Junipero Serra and you start decrying the colonialism and genocide carried out by Spanish speaking people of Catholic ancestry. Hell take it a step further back and note that Columbus was financed by Spain and thus all the true genocides of the Americans were carried out either by Spanish speaking people or financed by Spanish speaking people.

    Oh and let's teach this to eight year olds with nuance.
    Relevance to my point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvMyPups View Post
    It's pretty clear. Branding dead historical figures as gay without real proof that they were, is changing history based on unproven beliefs.
    Shall I simplify it even further?
    So you don't even know which people will be included in the textbooks yet they will be branded??

    Oh and the OP's link is run by a well known anti-Muslim nut job so yeah...
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