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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Greenbean View Post
    Some are embarrassed to admit that their mind has been changed by a good argument.
    I'm not embarrassed to admit that mind my has been changed by someone on the right. I honestly cannot think of a time when I changed my mind about an issue because of an argument from someone on the right. If I could think of something I'd admit it freely. But I can't think of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Seems we mostly argue in circles ... and seems we often draw our own lines deeper during the arguments.

    But in my case, political forums did cause a change in me. It started at another forum. There was a beleaguered Republican whom few accepted as a Republican because he supported unions. His name was Jake.

    He is the one who brought my attention to how Republican policies were hollowing out the middle class and leading to more working poor who needed government help in spite of holding full-time jobs. The Walmart model, where exploitative companies raked in the profits while their rank and file employees filed for food stamps.

    And he helped bring my attention to how, as Republican policies were helping to create more working poor, so-called fiscal conservatives were also trying to shrink the safety nets for these people whom they were helping to push into financial straits.



    Jake was a major factor in how I got past my scorn for Occupy Wall Street and became open to the messages of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.
    Ms. Amelia,

    I don't think I change minds directly, but I like to think the irrefutable logic in my debate makes some go "hmmmm."

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    Typing hate into your browser day after day cannot be healthy, and it doesn't really matter what forum or part of the internet you are at.

    That's like saying "hate is bad but its really bad over there!" - it's a negative all the time Panzareta.
    Much better to release that hate in an internet post with explanation than to just act out violently on the street.

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    I'm always learning from posts. An individual cannot know everything and many have offered up information that changed my viewpoint. I can think of many individuals on here that have influenced my position on subjects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Much better to release that hate in an internet post with explanation than to just act out violently on the street.
    That is the tactic the haters use to rationalize being a hateful person. I don't buy it. Who we are all the time, matters all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnflesh View Post
    I come here for the humor and good times. Often that is in short supply so it makes sense to drift away when the trolling is thickest. It comes and goes too.
    If you lose your sense of humor you might as well go off and hide in the closet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaryAnne View Post
    If you lose your sense of humor you might as well go off and hide in the closet.
    Word.

    I have a cousin who is young and freshly introduced into politics. He has decided that its better to run around like your hair is on fire about all the issues.

    His attitude: "How can anyone laugh when all of this is going on!!!"

    Mine: "All you can do is laugh."
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    I caught myself reading a very insightful post the other day. It was intelligent and thought provoking. It really made me think. It wasn't until I was half way through it that I realized it was one I'd written myself.

    Is that the kind of thing we're taking about here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    Seems we mostly argue in circles ... and seems we often draw our own lines deeper during the arguments.

    But in my case, political forums did cause a change in me. It started at another forum. There was a beleaguered Republican whom few accepted as a Republican because he supported unions. His name was Jake.

    He is the one who brought my attention to how Republican policies were hollowing out the middle class and leading to more working poor who needed government help in spite of holding full-time jobs. The Walmart model, where exploitative companies raked in the profits while their rank and file employees filed for food stamps.

    And he helped bring my attention to how, as Republican policies were helping to create more working poor, so-called fiscal conservatives were also trying to shrink the safety nets for these people whom they were helping to push into financial straits.



    Jake was a major factor in how I got past my scorn for Occupy Wall Street and became open to the messages of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.
    O my, yes. What would be the point of discussing anything if we will never change our minds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    Not usually. I use this place to keep basic writing and articulation skills sharp when work is slow.

    I do think the discussions open minds to further, independent inquiries, usually focused on reinforcing one's own opinions.

    But it's all good. More information from more sources are often useful.
    I think, if some people here are honest, there are issues we all use like battering rams. Frustrated and usually quite well-informed, if not entirely objective.

    But most issues don't elicit that bedrock knee-jerk reaction. I am willing to hear what others think about the environment, most science issues, economics, etc.

    History is a lot of fun, because whoever started a thread usually knows more than I do.

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