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    Locking up criminals is one of the primary reasons we have government in the first place.
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    "Society creates the crime, the criminal commits it".
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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    In the U.S. at least criminals aren't "created" they're all "self made men." (and women) Can't forget them.
    you seem to be off topic again (or still)

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    On October 26, 1909, the Rockefeller Health Commission for the Eradication of Hookworm was organized with a donation of one million dollars from John D. Rockefeller. Although humanitarian reasons are invoked, some suspect that the motive was to open new markets in the Appalachian region by increasing net disposable income. Nevertheless, the five-year program was a remarkable success and a remarkable contribution to public health in the United States, combining health education, drug treatment, field work and creating modern health departments. in eleven southern states. Hookworm was a prominent part of the show in Mississippi in 1910. The program has almost completely eradicated hookworm. The program will culminate with the creation of the International Health Division of the Rockefeller Foundation.
    In the 1920s, the eradication of hookworm continued in the Caribbean and Latin America, where a high mortality rate was observed among blacks in the West Indies at the end of the eighteenth century, in the descriptions from Brazil and South America. various other tropical and subtropical regions. The first treatment was thymol to kill worms, followed by Epsom salt to clear the body of worms. Later, the use of tetrachlorethylene became the main therapeutic method [ref. necessary]. It was not until the last years of the second half of the twentieth century that "new drugs" were developed from organic compounds.
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    Yeah, its not an insurmountable problem. What we lack is the will - that's why its shameful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fenrir View Post
    In the U.S. at least criminals aren't "created" they're all "self made men." (and women) Can't forget them.
    We are sitting on 725 in prison per 100k of population, Great Britain is at 125. Some 20% of ours are in for minor drug crimes, having a joint on you or a handful of pills gets you serious prison time in this country, especially if you are brown or black. Make all the excuses you want, our justice system is fucked up to the max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by labrea View Post
    Yeah, its not an insurmountable problem. What we lack is the will - that's why its shameful.
    Not insurmountable if Congress would get off their butts on infrastructure. In the new budget we are paying more for Military than the needs of our citizens!
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    U.S. Prisons Thriving on Jim Crow Marijuana Arrests


    According to a June 3 report from the ACLU, the “over-policing” of marijuana use combined with “staggering racial bias” are leading to appallingly high numbers of incarcerated African-Americans:
    “Between 2001 and 2010, there were over 8 million pot arrests in the U.S. That’s one bust every 37 seconds and hundreds of thousands ensnared in the criminal justice system … Marijuana use is roughly equal among blacks and whites, yet blacks are 3.73 times as likely to be arrested for marijuana possession” (“The War on Marijuana in Black and White: Report,” aclu.org, June 3).
    Citing the ACLU’s grim statistics, an August report from The Economist says, “blacks are almost four times more likely to be arrested for marijuana possession … in some places their arrest is over eight times more likely.
    “People with criminal records risk losing public benefits, being kicked out of public housing and suffering permanent gaps in employment and earning prospects” (“Waking life,” The Economist, Aug. 24).
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    Nothing to see here....move along....
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    Mr. Viking,

    The truth was too much for you, wot?
    Truth? What would you know about the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGaffer View Post
    We are sitting on 725 in prison per 100k of population, Great Britain is at 125. Some 20% of ours are in for minor drug crimes, having a joint on you or a handful of pills gets you serious prison time in this country, especially if you are brown or black. Make all the excuses you want, our justice system is fucked up to the max.
    It is why I am often puzzled reading some posts ! Criminality is a problem everywhere and you can just limit and never eradicate completely. But countries like Sweden are able to dismantle prisons, because there is a lack of prisoners..... And the incdentive is there more put on educating criminals than punishing them. In Sweden a prison term is a time used to help people to rebuild themselves in order to avoid second offences. Giving a training and reinserting people costs less to society globally than to keep people in bad conditions in jails like it is often the case in USA with huge prison terms. Swedes spend probably 5 time more for each prisoner than in the US, but globally it is cheaper, because you have less people in jail.The same in my country Switzerland.... ( a prisoner costs here more than USD 100.000 a year, when around USD 27.000 in the USA). We consider that most criminal are active between the age of 18 to around 25, and if you address their problems in a good way, you can reinsert them. So is it really logical to focus only on punishment, when you know that anyway it will not bring anything positive to society and just increase the costs paid by taxpayersfor prisons,justice etc....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by galatin View Post
    It is why I am often puzzled reading some posts ! Criminality is a problem everywhere and you can just limit and never eradicate completely. But countries like Sweden are able to dismantle prisons, because there is a lack of prisoners..... And the incdentive is there more put on educating criminals than punishing them. In Sweden a prison term is a time used to help people to rebuild themselves in order to avoid second offences. Giving a training and reinserting people costs less to society globally than to keep people in bad conditions in jails like it is often the case in USA with huge prison terms. Swedes spend probably 5 time more for each prisoner than in the US, but globally it is cheaper, because you have less people in jail.The same in my country Switzerland.... ( a prisoner costs here more than USD 100.000 a year, when around USD 27.000 in the USA). We consider that most criminal are active between the age of 18 to around 25, and if you address their problems in a good way, you can reinsert them. So is it really logical to focus only on punishment, when you know that anyway it will not bring anything positive to society and just increase the costs paid by taxpayersfor prisons,justice etc....?
    Of course that makes sense.

    Many Americans, however, see that as rewarding the criminal rather than punishing him. In the end, we are cutting off our noses to spite our faces.
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    So let me get this straight. In Europe, they dump sewage into rivers and canals. Venice is known for it's canals and they dump shit water directly into them. But if some hillbilly in Alabama dumps sewage into a creek, then OMG IT'S THE WORST THING I'VE EVER SEEN! SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN PLEASE!

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