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    Quote Originally Posted by kmiller1610 View Post
    You are missing the subtext. If Russian meddling is so serious that we must have an two year investigation to get to the bottom of it, then how can we NOT investigate the guy responsible for stopping the meddling? I think the investigation is both silly and a witch hunt that has nothing to do with Russian meddling. So I am riffing off of the presumption. The Russians have been meddling in Western elections for a hundred years. They were marching in the streets of Germany in the early 1920s and having street riots with the earliest forms of the Nazis. This makes Russian meddling both a routine and a vital concern. They are going to meddle. The intelligence community has to deal with it. The idea of blame shifting this duty to a candidate is absurd and always has been. The left is establishing a precedent that will ruin our democracy. Anyone running for the Potus job can and will be subject to a protracted anal exam if they can come up with a lame brain excuse. And yes, the right did the same thing to Bill Clinton, but without the combined forces echo chambers of the MSM, Hollywood, Broadway, Academia, Television and the majority of the newspapers.

    I apologize for this complex response to your hack job of analysis of my views, but I have been posting these same views for at least 6 months now. And I reject your overwrought binary framing of them.
    Doowd, the US has never, at any point, been hacked on such an enormous scale -- it might not be a big deal to you, it is to the rest of America. I con only imagine what you would have to say if Russia had contacted Hillary and if they were attempting to disparage your great leader. You would be all over this.

    Like I've said before and I will say again, how is it the presidents responsibility to prevent all crimes? Should we "investigate" George W. Bush for ALLOWING 9/11 to take place? Your point is stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Dad View Post
    Can anyone show a single vote that the Russians changed? All that I am hearing is that the Obama Administration utterly failed to protect this country, at least in the eyes of the left.
    How is anyone going to know this, SD? I'm I supposed to ask everyone in America what made them not vote for Hillary? If anyone did change there vote, I doubt they would even know exactly why.

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    Putin says he didn't do it, and Trump believes him. If that's good enough for Trump, it's good enough for us, right? right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Putin says he didn't do it, and Trump believes him. If that's good enough for Trump, it's good enough for us, right? right?
    Rather doubt Trump believes Putin.

    But it would be rather awkward for The Donald to call Vladamir a liar when he (Trump) is still claiming "it never happened".

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Rather doubt Trump believes Putin.

    But it would be rather awkward for The Donald to call Vladamir a liar when he (Trump) is still claiming "it never happened".
    Well, he says he does, but then, Trump says a lot of things.

    Trump says he believes Putin's election meddling denials

    Da Nang, Vietnam (CNN)President Donald Trump suggested on Saturday he's done confronting Russian President Vladimir Putin over his country's election meddling since it's insulting to the Russian leader.
    Trump said he took Putin at his word that Russia did not seek to interfere in the US presidential election last year, despite a finding from US intelligence agencies that it did. The fraught relations between the two leaders was underscored anew when Putin's spokesman initially said election meddling did not come up when they spoke, even though Trump said it did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Doowd, the US has never, at any point, been hacked on such an enormous scale -- it might not be a big deal to you, it is to the rest of America. I con only imagine what you would have to say if Russia had contacted Hillary and if they were attempting to disparage your great leader. You would be all over this.

    Like I've said before and I will say again, how is it the presidents responsibility to prevent all crimes? Should we "investigate" George W. Bush for ALLOWING 9/11 to take place? Your point is stupid.
    Russia did help Hillary with the Dossier. Hillary and her campaign had more connections to Russia than Trump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    How is anyone going to know this, SD? I'm I supposed to ask everyone in America what made them not vote for Hillary? If anyone did change there vote, I doubt they would even know exactly why.

    So then the Russia hacking the voter system is another democrat lie. Why is it democrat did not address this in 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Russia did help Hillary with the Dossier. Hillary and her campaign had more connections to Russia than Trump
    And that doesn't even scratch the surface of the whole thing. Hint: they referred to Obama as "a senior government official".
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    The Chinese hacked into our F35 technology. Espionage against us has been in play forever. All the sudden fuss now seems more political then reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election. In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra, the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn't talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, "We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated."

    Jeh Johnson, who was DHS secretary during the Russian intrusions, said, "2016 was a wake-up call and now it's incumbent upon states and the Feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked again."

    We were able to determine that the scanning and probing of voter registration databases was coming from the Russian government." NBC News reported in Sept. 2016 that more than 20 states had been targeted by the Russia

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...op-u-s-n845721

    Maybe it's just me, but seems like THIS is what Congress should be focusing on instead of nonsense memo's.

    This really is a BIG DEAL.
    Those concerns should of been dealt with long ago not just since hillary lost.
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