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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    In a nutshell this is what happened. They were able to penetrate the voter rolls in many states. Some of those voter rolls they were able to actually get into and get the person's information. Kind of like when someone get's hacked and their CC numbers are exposed. They did not use the info to swing any votes or change in anything else. It was a "test" run so to speak

    But next time they could very well use the info that they were able to get to change votes and change outcomes of elections. That is why HLS, the CIA and the State Department is sounding big alarms bells like this, as they should because they believe they will use the info next time around.

    So yes, this is a HUGE deal and so far, this administration is doing squat to protect the 2018 mid-terms.
    How do you know what the NSA and CYBERN are doing the combat this for the 2018 midterms? What clearance do you have to view their PROT?

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    LOL On Øbama's watch. What did he do about it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    LOL On Øbama's watch. What did he do about it?
    Blame bush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pragmatic View Post
    Confess i must be missing something in this story. It is certainly inappropriate/annoying (probably illegal) for Russia to be hacking into these registration rolls.

    But not seeing anything in the article suggesting these breeches had any impact on the outcome of the election??


    Little help...??
    Well, how would anyone be able to properly asses who's vote was changed for ANY reason? Some people vote for their party no matter what they find out about them.

    Even if Trump was found guilty of treason, even if there was supporting video -- millions of Trumps fans would still vote for him. Not all voters are like this -- some are VERY EASILY swayed into not voting for anyone, even the candidate they once supported. I've talked to quite a few liberals who actually believed that Obama was a Muslim. I've talked to others who thought that Hillary Clinton actually murdered people. I'm not kidding one bit, you would be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    Well, how would anyone be able to properly asses who's vote was changed for ANY reason? Some people vote for their party no matter what they find out about them.

    Even if Trump was found guilty of treason, even if there was supporting video -- millions of Trumps fans would still vote for him. Not all voters are like this -- some are VERY EASILY swayed into not voting for anyone. I've talked to quite a few liberals who actually believed that Obama was a Muslim. I've talked to others who thought that Hillary Clinton actually murdered people. I'm not kidding one bit, you would be surprised.
    Pot, meet kettle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by excalibur View Post
    LOL On Øbama's watch. What did he do about it?
    What did Trump do about it? Congress had to force him to not lift sanctions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LT Greenbean View Post
    Pot, meet kettle.
    What the hell are you talking about??? You're out of your fucking mind if you're accusing me of supporting someone who was guilty of a thing like that. You know nothing about me, but anyone on this board long term knows that I don't play sides. I believe what I believe based on the issue at hand. I've seen you think outside of party lines as well and I'm kind of taken back by your accusation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzling Evidence View Post
    What the hell are you talking about??? You're out of your fucking mind if you're accusing me of supporting someone who was guilty of a thing like that. You know nothing about me, but anyone on this board long term knows that I don't play sides. I believe what I believe based on the issue at hand. I've seen you think outside of party lines as well and I'm kind of taken back by your accusation.
    Ok, I take that back. Now that I think about it, you aren't party-drawn. My mistake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    In a nutshell this is what happened. They were able to penetrate the voter rolls in many states. Some of those voter rolls they were able to actually get into and get the person's information. Kind of like when someone get's hacked and their CC numbers are exposed. They did not use the info to swing any votes or change in anything else. It was a "test" run so to speak

    But next time they could very well use the info that they were able to get to change votes and change outcomes of elections. That is why HLS, the CIA and the State Department is sounding big alarms bells like this, as they should because they believe they will use the info next time around.

    So yes, this is a HUGE deal and so far, this administration is doing squat to protect the 2018 mid-terms.

    Not sure how one could "change votes" by hacking into a voter registration database?? That really isn't how things work.

    But agree that all government agencies need to be tuned and proactive in maintaining a high level of cyber security.




    (An how would you know what "this administration" is doing to protect the integrity of the elections....??)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HayJenn View Post
    The U.S. official in charge of protecting American elections from hacking says the Russians successfully penetrated the voter registration rolls of several U.S. states prior to the 2016 presidential election. In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Jeanette Manfra, the head of cybersecurity at the Department of Homeland Security, said she couldn't talk about classified information publicly, but in 2016, "We saw a targeting of 21 states and an exceptionally small number of them were actually successfully penetrated."

    Jeh Johnson, who was DHS secretary during the Russian intrusions, said, "2016 was a wake-up call and now it's incumbent upon states and the Feds to do something about it before our democracy is attacked again."

    We were able to determine that the scanning and probing of voter registration databases was coming from the Russian government." NBC News reported in Sept. 2016 that more than 20 states had been targeted by the Russia

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ele...op-u-s-n845721

    Maybe it's just me, but seems like THIS is what Congress should be focusing on instead of nonsense memo's.

    This really is a BIG DEAL.
    We suspected shenanigans of some sort way back in the 2004 elections. But everyone just yawned when several states suggested it appeared some machines looked to be getting hacked as some sort of dry run. It now appears to have been true.

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