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    That would eliminate one of the most basic doctrines of the Constitution: checks and balances.
    Trump and his GOP have already done that.

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    That system was divised in the 1700's for a tiny country with very little communication and the Electoral College was meant to be a deliberative body to keep us safe from conmen like Trump.
    Think it's still ideal in 2018?
    It is a doctrine that would prevent the historical cause of nations and empires to fail.

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    Trump and his GOP have already done that.
    All contemporary administrations have done that.
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    in what way? there will still be the same three branches and they will still be independent of each other, with different duties to perform as they do now. but, in democracy, the citizen majority controls what the government does, not t5he legislature and the president.
    That is a completly different govenment structure that works for a unitary government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    That is a completly different govenment structure that works for a unitary government.
    that is democracy. I get that you are opposed, as it removes influences that many groups now have on government. I understand that, but in a democracy, the citizen majority makes the laws and rules. if that is a system you oppose, then you are, either by admission or omission, legitimizing the rule of the elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    homogeneous? not hardly. they are diverse mixture of French, German, Italian and Slovak with about a 10% mixture of immigrants from many countries. I'd hardly call that homogeneous.
    Yes, they are a Germanic culture with some French and Italian thrown in. You cannot compare that to the diversity in the US. It's not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babba View Post
    Yes, they are a Germanic culture with some French and Italian thrown in. You cannot compare that to the diversity in the US. It's not even close.
    and what, precisely, has that got to do with democracy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    that is democracy. I get that you are opposed, as it removes influences that many groups now have on government. I understand that, but in a democracy, the citizen majority makes the laws and rules. if that is a system you oppose, then you are, either by admission or omission, legitimizing the rule of the elite.
    That is mob rule and all rights and laws will be subject to the majority of the day. The smaller the population the more viable democracy will work such as municipalities and there is the component of swift rectification via recalls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennyson View Post
    That is mob rule and all rights and laws will be subject to the majority of the day. The smaller the population the more viable democracy will work such as municipalities and there is the component of swift rectification via recalls.
    laws would be subject to the rule of the citizen majority, not mob rule, and would have to comply with the constitution - just as they do now. do you object to that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonehead View Post
    laws would be subject to the rule of the citizen majority, not mob rule, and would have to comply with the constitution - just as they do now. do you object to that?
    I do object.

    It is not a workable solution in the long run in a non-unitary govenment. A republic is more workable and even it is not made for a country of our size. Montesquieu warned of countries being too large for a republic to work and that is more viable than democracy.

    The Constitution and rights would be at the mercy of mob rule.
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