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    I'm saying being born with the genetics of two high IQ parents, who are then successful and economically advantaged, and are more likely to be able to supply all the advantages to their genetically high IQ child doesn't prove that those advantages are the reason the child scores well. It's still the genetics that prevail.
    What happens with "stupid" white people? Do you move them into da hood?

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    Otto, fear not! No way that you are less intelligent than any black people.....nor certainly any of us off-white people. This is why we always copied your homework in Algebra. Fear not, your grasp upon higher "learnin" is unbreakable.

    Give us a call, though, if you need a tree removed or need any drywall repairs. Thank you!
    It would surprise the shit out of me if there were no black people smarter than me. In fact I'm certain that isn't so. But thanks for the compliment. I am pretty smart anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otto Throttle View Post
    I'm saying being born with the genetics of two high IQ parents, who are then successful and economically advantaged, and are more likely to be able to supply all the advantages to their genetically high IQ child doesn't prove that those advantages are the reason the child scores well. It's still the genetics that prevail.

    Completed Post Secondary School (college) **is often dependent on money but the others are not dependent on money. What is the value of an intact nuclear family, good parenting, and good communities and/or good relations with extended family. These things money can't buy, they are priceless. I say the chances of realizing your genetic potential hindges on these points more than any other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otto Throttle View Post
    It would surprise the shit out of me if there were no black people smarter than me. In fact I'm certain that isn't so. But thanks for the compliment. I am pretty smart anyway.
    Can I copy your homework?

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    You actually may want to look at what sports the school system actually supports and which ones they do not. In other words if the schools have a program its funded by the school which means that unless the parents poney up the money there is no team and no tournaments. Hence I said prestiges schools and private schools are the only ones that offer ice hockey while the majority of schools do not. Thanks for playing.

    Sanctioned non-athletic activities

    Note:Some Illinois high schools field competitive teams in events such as fencing, field hockey, and ice hockey, but the IHSA does not sponsor tournaments in these events. Other academic competitions, such as Academic Decathlon, Science Olympiad, and DECAare not sponsored by the IHSA, and are governed by their respective national and/or state agencies.

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    “It used to be playing in high school was something relatively accessible to everyone,” said Karl Erickson, a faculty member at the Institute for the Study of Youth Sports at Michigan State University. “A small number who had aspirations beyond that would go outside to club and travel. For many people, that could be a great experience.

    “Now there has been this shift to where the club and travel teams, which tend to be more expensive and year-round time intensive at times, are becoming par for the course or mandatory just to take part in a high school sport,” Erickson said. “Now, you’re either all-in, full-bore, year-round, or you’re not even in the system.”

    Parents spend thousands of dollars a year to place their kids in club or travel programs, hundreds or even thousands each season on new equipment, and often hundreds per hour on private lessons or coaching.

    The time commitment can be equally burdensome. Now, more than ever, kids spend more time year-round on athletics in hopes of being able to play next season, be it in high school or college.

    It’s not unheard of for a high-level high school athlete to spend as much as $20,000 a year on team fees, equipment, travel, private coaching and personal training.

    Pay to play: The high cost of youth sports | USA TODAY High School Sports

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eve1 View Post
    How many schools offer hockey as a sport? Football and the equipment is provided by the school and traveling is done as a school activity. This is not the case for hockey.

    Your ignorance @Kallie Knoetze is showing.
    Actually most Cities have AAW/AAU hockey leagues that have Male and Female players. Hockey is a big Sport here in TN... it has surpassed Baseball in many communities

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    You missed the actual point of the thread but then again I don’t expect anything better from you. The thread actually is to point out how race is not a factor of determining IQ but rather has more to do with other factors. Thanks for playing you are dismissed now @TNVolunteer73.

    Genetics (based on race) I would argue has nothing to do with intelligence. Intelligence tests assumes everybody has been exposed to the same information and everybody has been given the same tools to properly memorize and apply the concepts under the same circumstances.

    I think the likelihood that the child has been exposed to the information needed to do well on intelligence tests can be figured out if they have attended formal schooling accredited to achieve a certain degree=elementary, secondary, post secondary education (FE).The tools needed to get that information to stick in their minds relies more on Family and common social and environmental factors (FSEC).


    Students should be screened on their family and environmental and social conditions first (FSEF)and next on grade level achieved (FE) . The higher the FSEF the higher the IQ score. I'm betting that this is independent of race.
    actually you missed the point. My point was you support a Separate Educational Experience for Whites and Blacks. You support the public school system that is Separate but unequal..

    Go to the African American neighborhood school then go to the upper Crust neighborhood School and you will see the racist policies that you support are in the real world.

    you see math in uptown and down town is the same. Physics is the same, Science is the same.. you just support a system that insures that Blacks and browns donot get taught science math and Reading. They are taught adventures in Baby Sitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    actually you missed the point. My point was you support a Separate Educational Experience for Whites and Blacks. You support the public school system that is Separate but unequal..

    Go to the African American neighborhood school then go to the upper Crust neighborhood School and you will see the racist policies that you support are in the real world.

    you see math in uptown and down town is the same. Physics is the same, Science is the same.. you just support a system that insures that Blacks and browns donot get taught science math and Reading. They are taught adventures in Baby Sitting.
    This thread was not about the school systems. You can start your own threads but since you brought it up I will tell you personally I feel the problem is with how the funds for schools are dished out. Community taxes that fund local schools are administered locally instead of by the one central individual State as a whole. If the State pooled all the money they collected by property taxes from each county and funded each district based on the population of children in each county paid then the schools themselves would be independent of the wealth of the coummity the child lives. Doing that of course would upset people of wealth because then their local school systems wouldn't be better funded than the less affluent neighbourhood schools.

    Now either stay on topic in this thread which isn itelligence tests and if they are related to Family and common social and environmental factors (FSEC) or go start your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TNVolunteer73 View Post
    Actually most Cities have AAW/AAU hockey leagues that have Male and Female players. Hockey is a big Sport here in TN... it has surpassed Baseball in many communities
    The fact is that they Ice Hockey is not publically funded in most states in most schools which was the discussion you jumped into.In any event it isn't even the topic of this thread.

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    Students should be screened on their family and environmental and social conditions first (FSEF)and next on grade level achieved (FE) . The higher the FSEF the higher the IQ score. I'm betting that this is independent of race.

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