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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    Another Mass Shooting Potentially Linked to Psychiatric Drugs | Markets Insider
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...mass-shootings
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/dramat...-drugs/5358896


    Zoloft:
    "manic episodes - racing thoughts, increased energy, unusual risk-taking behavior, extreme happiness, being irritable or talkative, common reactions leading to discontinuation were agitation, suicidal ideation, hyperkinesia, suicide attempt, and aggravated depression."

    10. Desvenlafaxine (Pristiq) An antidepressant which affects both serotonin and noradrenaline, this drug is 7.9 times more likely to be associated with violence than other drugs.

    9. Venlafaxine (Effexor) A drug related to Pristiq in the same class of antidepressants, both are also used to treat anxiety disorders. Effexor is 8.3 times more likely than other drugs to be related to violent behavior. (More on Time.com: Adderall May Not Make You Smarter, But It Makes You Think You Are)

    8. Fluvoxamine (Luvox) An antidepressant that affects serotonin (SSRI), Luvox is 8.4 times more likely than other medications to be linked with violence

    7. Triazolam (Halcion) A benzodiazepine which can be addictive, used to treat insomnia. Halcion is 8.7 times more likely to be linked with violence than other drugs, according to the study.

    6) Atomoxetine (Strattera) Used to treat attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), Strattera affects the neurotransmitter noradrenaline and is 9 times more likely to be linked with violence compared to the average medication.

    5) Mefoquine (Lariam) A treatment for malaria, Lariam has long been linked with reports of bizarre behavior. It is 9.5 times more likely to be linked with violence than other drugs.

    4) Amphetamines: (Various) Amphetamines are used to treat ADHD and affect the brain’s dopamine and noradrenaline systems. They are 9.6 times more likely to be linked to violence, compared to other drugs.

    3) Paroxetine (Paxil) An SSRI antidepressant, Paxil is also linked with more severe withdrawal symptoms and a greater risk of birth defects compared to other medications in that class. It is 10.3 times more likely to be linked with violence compared to other drugs. (More on Time.com: Healthland’s Guide to Life 2011)

    2) Fluoxetine (Prozac) The first well-known SSRI antidepressant, Prozac is 10.9 times more likely to be linked with violence in comparison with other medications.

    1) Varenicline (Chantix) The anti-smoking medication Chantix affects the nicotinic acetylcholine receptor, which helps reduce craving for smoking. Unfortunately, it’s 18 times more likely to be linked with violence compared to other drugs — by comparison, that number for Xyban is 3.9 and just 1.9 for nicotine replacement. Because Chantix is slightly superior in terms of quit rates in comparison to other drugs, it shouldn’t necessarily be ruled out as an option for those trying to quit, however.

    Top Ten Legal Drugs Linked to Violence | TIME.com



    How can you not "buy" into the fact that all of these shootings involved people on these drugs.
    1. I don't buy the argument that insanity is exclusively caused by drugs....which seems to be your argument.
    2. We both know the NRA would not support your idea nor would the Congress that they own.
    3. Gun sellers would then be required to do active searches of what drugs people are taking b4 they can buy a gun?
    4. Who decides what drugs are disqualifying?
    5. How many court cases will big pharma bring to fight this law?
    6. How do we deal with people who easily get drugs illegally?

    Your argument is not well thought out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    1. I don't buy the argument that insanity is exclusively caused by drugs....which seems to be your argument.
    2. We both know the NRA would not support your idea nor would the Congress that they own.
    3. Gun sellers would then be required to do active searches of what drugs people are taking b4 they can buy a gun?
    4. Who decides what drugs are disqualifying?
    5. How many court cases will big pharma bring to fight this law?
    6. How do we deal with people who easily get drugs illegally?

    Your argument is not well thought out.


    1. they were already crazy, we gave them drugs that made them crazier.
    2. sure they would on this.
    3. nope, you link certain drugs to a federal database in the NICS check.
    4. government, criteria to include "homidical ideations" and "suicidal thoughts".
    5. 0
    6. people don't seek out these drugs they are prescribed.



    My argument is most assuredly the best and most well thought out.


    1. Make anyone on these drugs a prohibited possessor for the duration of the treatment.
    2. MAn trap doors and an armed guard at each school.
    3. Prosecute students who commit crimes of assault at schools.


    This alone would stop 90% of these shootings. What you propose would stop 0%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. Hellh0und View Post
    1. they were already crazy, we gave them drugs that made them crazier.
    2. sure they would on this.
    3. nope, you link certain drugs to a federal database in the NICS check.
    4. government, criteria to include "homidical ideations" and "suicidal thoughts".
    5. 0
    6. people don't seek out these drugs they are prescribed.



    My argument is most assuredly the best and most well thought out.


    1. Make anyone on these drugs a prohibited possessor for the duration of the treatment.
    2. MAn trap doors and an armed guard at each school.
    3. Prosecute students who commit crimes of assault at schools.
    I have no problem with 2 & 3 as part of a plan......#1 would prove impossible to implement in the real world and that still leaves most crazies wandering the streets with automatic weapons and high capacity magazines.....with just the need of a rubber band to make the conversion to full auto.

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